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Been using Slackware on and off for 20 years and it's been my primary OS for the last couple. I've donated and will happily pay monthly once there's a subscription mechanism available.
Yes, that's my site. The logo is a slight bit different than what was used on the store shirts ("classic" instead of "linux", and nothing on the back). That was due to an agreement that I had at the time to let the store be exclusive with the shirt designs that were sold there, but obviously that agreement is no more. In order to have more than one design on CafePress I'd need to upgrade my account there. I don't really make much of a cut off sales on CafePress either, but it's a little something. Moving forward merch might be more something that I'm doing for the community because they like those things and want to buy them rather than a significant source of funding.
That's a real shame about the store. I really love my plain black slackware shirt, but now I'm going to feel dirty every time I wear it. I'll definitely be getting a flippy logo hoodie off the cafe press store, even though cafe press pays dick-all. Oh, and my remaining PayPal balance has been donated.
Do some sort of Patreon thing, Pat! I'm down for subscribing $20 a month if it means slackware will continue to exist.
Last edited by michaelk; 08-17-2018 at 11:41 AM.
Reason: language cleanup
just catching up some Linux Action news that I missed over summer,
This topic was mentioned in episode 64, there is even a link to PV paypal in the show notes http://linuxactionnews.com/64
what reminds me on something different. Since media presence is important, especially for OS project that needs supporters, can we not have a sticky thread where all mentions of Slackware in media can be collected, so that they are also findable?
I am extremely happy to hear this direct communication.
For the record, I've used Slackware on and off for over 10 years, and am just now in a financial position where I feel that I can contribute to it. So last year, I went to the store, bought a T-shirt and signed up for a subscription. Ok, physical media might be dead, but I liked the idea of giving some money and getting back - I assumed The Man would be getting the vast majority of it. But, reading this post, particularly:
Quote:
Originally Posted by volkerdi
If at all possible I'd like to get away from replicating physical media which seems to be a lost cause.
So I will immediately move to Paypal for my donations. I liked the idea of the subscription, since I can set it up and continue to support without thinking too hard, but of course I want it to actually be going to Slackware development.
Thanks for a great OS, keep at it, and we will try to keep supporting!
Issue 241 of UK's Linux Format has an article under the title "Are we in the middle of an open source funding crisis?".
The article talks about the problems facing Liberapay and gives a plug to this thread on linuxquestions and quotes Pat's PayPal account.
Excellent news, thank you so much, I'll look out for it. My local Tesco used to stock three Linux titles, but now it doesn't sell any [Linux User has been replaced by Your Cat, as far as I can see]. I have to go to Waterloo station to pick my magazines up.
I have followed this thread and re-re-read most of it multiple times, but stopped short of clicking the Post Quick Reply button because others have already said most of what needs to be said. More anger expressed at Pat's circumstance would not really be constructive.
But Pat has asked for and received suggestions for how to move forward, and I have a few to express that have not been brought into the center of the discussion and I think should be expressed - even if they are only the result of my own perhaps limited perspective.
There is a recurring suggestion to incorporate, or set up a foundation, or follow some established "open source" business model (meh!)... any of which would, in my opinion do more harm than good to Slackware, and perhaps to Pat.
I would suggest that we adopt the mantra, "Keep Slackware FREE!".
[...]
So, repeat after me, "Keep Patrick FREE to keep Slackware FREE!"
A Slackware Foundation can still keep Slackware free as long as it is set up in the right way, you only need to look at RMS and the Free Software Foundation.
Pat, why not accept several forms of payment? Maybe PayPal, Patreon, LiberaPay, Ko-fi, Flattr, Bitcoin, Ethereum, I don't know what else... but most setup is easy. For Flattr all you do is add an HTML meta tag to your site and I think you automatically get paid according to number of visits (of people using Flattr.) Ko-fi uses the idea 'buy me a coffee,' and Ethereum is probably the mist high-technology cryptocurrency, like a worldwide supercomputer, so CS people think it'll eventually overtake Bitcoin.
Issue 241 of UK's Linux Format has an article under the title "Are we in the middle of an open source funding crisis?".
The article talks about the problems facing Liberapay and gives a plug to this thread on linuxquestions and quotes Pat's PayPal account.
A little bit of an unusual question, but how long is this article? I'm getting a little tired of the magazines giving space to the larger distros and their related news. Hopefully the article you speak of will be of a decent length.
The UK magazines generally tend to cater to the same bunch: Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Debian [a little] and some of the up-and-coming distros like Manjaro, Elementary, Deepin. I can't remember seeing one article ever on Slackware or Gentoo. There's even an Ubuntu Magazine now, did you notice?
By way of example, back when Debian 9 was released Linux User ran an issue on Mint [Mint 18.2 had just been released] and Debian 9. The cover was Mint green and Debian magenta. Very nice. Mint got:
- coverdisk inclusion
- a four page interview with Clement Lefebvre
- a four page feature, "What's New in Linux Mint?"
- a review of Linux Mint 18.2 beta [they reviewed a bloody beta, God]
What did Debian get [apart from the coverdisk]? A two page review of the latest stable. That was all. A new Debian release, I would have thought, is quite important news, esp seeing as it's the grandfather of so many distros but no, more Minty beneficence. I notice that the cover of the latest Linux Format is also emblazoned with a Mint logo so I imagine there's quite a bit about it inside. Clem knows how to keep interest up.
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