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Old 07-30-2018, 12:27 PM   #421
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.....One major detractor in having releases so spread out is hardware support. 14.2's installer doesn't support installing to NVMe drives (I think MMC drives as well). It is also missing support for a lot of newer hardware.....
Exactly!
How long have the Ryzen processors been available? A year and a half? Yet, even with -current the "stock" kernel doesn't provide the additional support for Ryzen CPUs found in the 4.15, 4.16 (both EOL), and now the 4.17.xx kernel.
Perhaps, a big maybe, the 4.18 or 4.19 kernel will be designated LTS.
 
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:34 PM   #422
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People not living under the freedoms of the United States Constitution may disregard the following.

Because PayPal is a California Based company, they have to adhere to that states laws. Those laws infringe on my second amendment rights as an American citizen. So, no PayPal for me or anyone else interested in their Constitutional rights.

Is there a way to send personal checks to Mr. Volkerding and other involved individuals?

You may have guessed that I am over 70.
Hoping to keep this apolitical. Do you just object to personally using paypal, or anyone using it? Because PV is clearly receiving emergency $$ via paypal from others and it's clearly helping. On the other hand, if you're ok with PV getting emergency cash via paypal, then maybe find someone else who'll take your check, cash it and send the $$ to PV? I would be happy to do that for free, if you were to trust me (which you have no reason to).
 
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:49 PM   #423
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Just an off-the-wall idea. Please forgive me if the name I'm about to mention is considered much "worse" than Paypal for various reasons. Not trying to antagonize anyone, just trying to brainstorm. I know that Amazon supports "subscriptions" - I have signed up for motor oil, for example. And I believe they also have "wishlists", similar to wedding registries, etc..

I took a QUICK look, and the "professional" account price like $40/month.

I know that people / stores sell mp3s and possibly other digital goods on Amazon. What if PV were to "sell" Slackware current DVD iso's (i.e. mail the buyer a link to the most recent "current" ISO) for like $5/month? And people "subscribe" with a 1-6 month subscription range. So minimum $10/year, maximum $60/year. If you want to do more than that, subscribe to both 32-bit and 64-bit ISOs. I know my "acceptable" yearly donation is somewhere in that possible range ($5-120). Or buy some computer hardware PV has on his wishlist, or a handyman service (roof repair?) through Amazon, if available in his area?

I know the OVERHEAD is probably higher than straight donations, but all the infrastructure is in place and it's not going anywhere in the near future. So if PV ends up with like 95% of all subscriptions, instead of 97.5% of donations, but his time commitment is nearly 0 (email bot to send out the link to the ISO?) with the power of Amazon behind him, that might be less stressful overall than constantly having to monitor different sites for their ongoing viability, making sure it transfers correctly to his bank, etc. Amazon has a presence in most countries, supports multiple payment systems, etc.

And if there are lots of good reasons why this won't work, please just state them and don't take it personally like I suggested supporting the devil - I'm new at this specific thing, just trying to help.
 
Old 07-30-2018, 12:50 PM   #424
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Free books from Amazon won't pay anyone's rent though.
 
Old 07-30-2018, 12:57 PM   #425
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Free books from Amazon won't pay anyone's rent though.
I agree. Personally, I'd probably go for the $5/month (or $30 every 6 months if the overhead is lower) subscription. Or make it $10/month if the overhead is too high and let people subscribe once every 12 months. The easier it is (without lots of philosophical objections), the more people will subscribe, IMHO. Heck, Amazon exposure might bring a whole new set of users..
 
Old 07-30-2018, 01:06 PM   #426
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Amazon exposure might bring a whole new set of users..
I agree with Amazon as an option to consider.
After sorting out my browser issues, Paypal has now taken me on a merry go round towards contributing as I had an account dating back many many years that I haven't touched for just has long... cannot remember what the password is.
So, the endless send a sms to a mobile phone that hasn't existed for just as many years and the 'other' login options to remember
If I cannot unlock that dormant account, I'll have to find another option to contribute.
 
Old 07-30-2018, 04:21 PM   #427
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Donated from here as well. Hope this resolves in a good way.
 
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Old 07-30-2018, 04:25 PM   #428
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Good, this story got LWN coverage today:
https://lwn.net/Articles/761004
Another one:

https://www.itwire.com/open-source/8...-paid-him.html
 
Old 07-30-2018, 04:58 PM   #429
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In for $20 to PayPal. Good luck Pat!
 
Old 07-30-2018, 06:01 PM   #430
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Sent fifty smackaroos.
 
Old 07-30-2018, 06:28 PM   #431
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Last week-end, I donated as much as I could, hope this help a bit. :-)

I am waiting to know how to support on regular basis and I hope we will know before version 15 being released as it was pretty when Pat did much of his money.

And just like many said, I would love to still be able to buy tee-shirts or goodies for propaganda and support ! :-D
 
Old 07-30-2018, 07:26 PM   #432
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Sent donation.
 
Old 07-30-2018, 09:19 PM   #433
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...I've been mulling over exactly how to tell you all this...
DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!

Pat, I am currently in the shitter financially, so I can relate. I won't be down here forever. Once I climb out, I will most definitely be sending you something, somehow, some way.

Hang tough, man!

~Eric AKA Nocturnal Slacker, vtel57
 
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Old 07-30-2018, 10:20 PM   #434
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Hoping to keep this apolitical. Do you just object to personally using paypal, or anyone using it? Because PV is clearly receiving emergency $$ via paypal from others and it's clearly helping. On the other hand, if you're ok with PV getting emergency cash via paypal, then maybe find someone else who'll take your check, cash it and send the $$ to PV? I would be happy to do that for free, if you were to trust me (which you have no reason to).
I assume that he personally won't use it for the reason given and wouldn't want someone to be a proxy for him as well for the reason given. What you do with your money is up to you, of course.

@guzzi can speak for his/her self, of course.
 
Old 07-30-2018, 10:58 PM   #435
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I use both Paypal and Patreon to support various causes that I support, he said redundantly. I have had no issues with either of them. Well, I did have an issue with Patreon when it went from user name login to email login, but Patreon fixed it promptly, which I submit is a plus for them.

Being naturally conservative (personally, not necessarily politically), I am leery of copycat upstarts, as you should be too.

In any event, I shall support Slackware in whatever way that I can support Slackware, because Slackware, the distro of iron that always works and never breaks (that phrase is not original with me, by the way), is the distro that taught me to understand Linux. If you understand Slackware, no other distro can ever intimidate you, because Slackware teaches you how to figure stuff out.

Anyway, I think the overweening message of this whole thread is that Slackers stand behind Slackware and its creator, because they recognize the contribution of it and of him and his team members.
 
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