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View Poll Results: UNIX is better than WINDOWS
what?HELLO.i am UNIX. the best! 605 68.52%
whooa, wait a minute. Windows is BETTER than UNIX 48 5.44%
hoo-boy..i don't like both. 64 7.25%
errr...i don't know, what is UNIX afterall? 11 1.25%
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:00 PM   #3661
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I expect M$ to do the same thing to WinBloze Store that cr4pp13 did with the CryPhone App Store: expect to have fascist control over it and perform millions of rejections. Sorry M$, that is no way to market an OS.
 
Old 06-30-2010, 08:06 PM   #3662
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CryPhone
Nice!

How about "Cr-App-le store"?
 
Old 06-30-2010, 08:30 PM   #3663
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Nice!

How about "Cr-App-le store"?
You're missing the whole point of that post: M$ is just as bad as cr4pp13 when it comes to control of their online services. They both want to manipulate the market with an iron fist and both want to make sure that it's nearly impossible to be able to push an app through. If M$ wants to rip off Linux and its repository feature, that's fine, when I turn 18, I'll get a lawyer and sue them, branding WinBloze 8 as a Linux rip-off. And I'll keep appealing, even if it goes to the Supreme Court.
 
Old 06-30-2010, 10:30 PM   #3664
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M$ and cr4pp13 are both evil and greedy monopolies. But, I despite M$ even more.

I just happy that I don't use either of them nor their products and services.

Last edited by dv502; 07-01-2010 at 12:47 AM.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 04:02 AM   #3665
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when I turn 18,
Ha, I think that explains a lot

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If M$ wants to rip off Linux and its repository feature, that's fine, when I turn 18, I'll get a lawyer and sue them, branding WinBloze 8 as a Linux rip-off.
Good luck with that. It's to my knowledge not patented and I don't think it should be (not even sure it can be patented anyway), therefore don't see why others shouldn't be able to do it.
Plus copying it from Linux just means Linux does it the right way.

However, have fun doing it, post your law suit results here, but let us get some beer and popcorn first
 
Old 07-01-2010, 04:03 AM   #3666
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M$ and cr4pp13 are both evil and greedy monopolies. But, I despite M$ even more.

I just happy that I don't use either of them nor their products and services.
Nowadays I think Apple's worse than Microsoft.
Granted MS is still up to their usual, but Apple had to go further in that regards.

Not fond of either though.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 04:10 AM   #3667
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The only thing I don't understand about all of this is this:
If you don't like the way Apple and Microsoft do things, then it's not that you don't like Apple and Microsoft. It's that you don't like huge corporations... right? Huge corporations are always like Apple and Microsoft. I would think you would want to do a lot more than just get rid of Apple and Microsoft.
Keep in mind that Intel has been accused many times of being a monopoly. You use Intel processors, don't you?
 
Old 07-01-2010, 04:39 AM   #3668
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Good luck with that. It's to my knowledge not patented and I don't think it should be (not even sure it can be patented anyway), therefore don't see why others shouldn't be able to do it.
At most, you might be able to get MS for false advertising. If they make claims that imply the idea is innovative or new, you could take them to task on that. But at least in the UK all that would happen is they'd get told to stop running the ad.

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Keep in mind that Intel has been accused many times of being a monopoly. You use Intel processors, don't you?
Personally for my computers I prefer AMD processors. Better performance for lower price. To be honest I think it says a lot about business in general that Intel has remained dominant despite consistently offering inferior products at higher prices than the competition.

From a patent licensing perspective, Intel licenses x86 to AMD, but then AMD holds the patents to x86_64 and licenses them to Intel.

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Old 07-01-2010, 06:51 AM   #3669
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If M$ wants to rip off Linux and its repository feature
Isn't the point of FOSS that anyone can use anyone else's ideas and it should be considered an advancement of technology, not stealing?

So if I, for example, would make my own brand-new OS and make a package manager and repository for it, you would sue me for ripping off Linux?

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Old 07-01-2010, 07:11 AM   #3670
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I wouldn't mind using AMD at all. In fact, I've been considering AMD for my next computer...
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Corporations anywhere near the size of Apple and Microsoft do what Apple and Microsoft do, though... open source/free is a good thing when you're talking about Linux versus Windows or OS X, but when just considering Apple and Microsoft alone, they do what every other big corporation does. They would all be greedy monopolies if they could.
"Better performance for lower price." I've never heard that before. I've been thinking "at least equal performance for lower price."

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Old 07-01-2010, 07:15 AM   #3671
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Hi,

There would be nothing wrong if done properly. The Open Source community has allowed anyone that follows the rules to utilize under the license. The big problem for M$ would be the release of information openly. I would like to see the result if M$ did use FLOSS and violated the license.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 08:49 AM   #3672
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The only thing I don't understand about all of this is this:
If you don't like the way Apple and Microsoft do things, then it's not that you don't like Apple and Microsoft. It's that you don't like huge corporations... right?
No.

I don't have anything against corporations except for M$. I just HATE M$ with a passion.

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Old 07-01-2010, 09:10 AM   #3673
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I think Apple's computers seem very nice, but they're too expensive to me. I could pay half the price and get an excellent PC right now. And I like using Linux.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 09:52 AM   #3674
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Isn't the point of FOSS that anyone can use anyone else's ideas and it should be considered an advancement of technology, not stealing?

So if I, for example, would make my own brand-new OS and make a package manager and repository for it, you would sue me for ripping off Linux?
If it's proprietary, yes. The GPL explicitly states that if you make changes to or distribute FOSS code, you have to distribute the code back to the community, not hog it all to yourself.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 10:01 AM   #3675
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If it's proprietary, yes. The GPL explicitly states that if you make changes to or distribute FOSS code, you have to distribute the code back to the community, not hog it all to yourself.
so a proprietary repository w/o FOSS code never came to mind?
 
  


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