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View Poll Results: UNIX is better than WINDOWS
what?HELLO.i am UNIX. the best! 605 68.52%
whooa, wait a minute. Windows is BETTER than UNIX 48 5.44%
hoo-boy..i don't like both. 64 7.25%
errr...i don't know, what is UNIX afterall? 11 1.25%
windows?never heard of it... 155 17.55%
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Old 05-12-2010, 12:57 PM   #3271
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But the command line is more versatile, and does not require downloading third-party software from strange web sites.

And it's all open-source, too!
 
Old 05-12-2010, 01:28 PM   #3272
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But the command line is more versatile, and does not require downloading third-party software from strange web sites.

And it's all open-source, too!
right, I just linked to a Microsoft solution. You can rename bulk files within explorer.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 01:54 PM   #3273
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But it's really limited.

Those who refuse to use the command line, or do not even know it exists, and try to do everything by pointing and clicking are depriving themselves of the full power their computer has.
Those who insist on using the command line, and eschew all GUIs, are doing exactly the same.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 01:56 PM   #3274
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Those who refuse to use the command line, or do not even know it exists, and try to do everything by pointing and clicking are depriving themselves of the full power their computer has.
Those who insist on using the command line, and eschew all GUIs, are doing exactly the same.
Exactly.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 01:58 PM   #3275
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But it's really limited.

Those who refuse to use the command line, or do not even know it exists, and try to do everything by pointing and clicking are depriving themselves of the full power their computer has.
Those who insist on using the command line, and eschew all GUIs, are doing exactly the same.
Hardly, a gui is far from necessary.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 01:59 PM   #3276
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But I must say that web browsing, basic file management, image viewing/processing, etc. are easier in a GUI.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 02:01 PM   #3277
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true, but in windows the command line isn't really any more powerful or useful in most cases. I could understand why Linux would be considered powerful because you have direct access to the source and its more so designed for command line use. It's really a dated argument because you can accomplish the same tasks in either environment in this day and age.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 02:06 PM   #3278
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and remember, there's a windows equivalent for every task you could imagine.
Funnily enough you didn't link to one that counts
the lines of code in all your source files or the
number of words in your documents?



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Old 05-12-2010, 02:10 PM   #3279
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true, but in windows the command line isn't really any more powerful or useful in most cases.
But in Linux the command line IS more powerful.

It doesn't even compare to Windows's pathetic excuse for a command line.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 02:29 PM   #3280
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Funnily enough you didn't link to one that counts
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Again, there's a Windows equivalent for everything. That seems like an easy enough task to accomplish. And why would Windows come with such a tool, it's enterprise software.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 02:30 PM   #3281
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But in Linux the command line IS more powerful.

It doesn't even compare to Windows's pathetic excuse for a command line.
Well 90% of the desktop market and 50% of the server market seems to be doing just fine with the GUI.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 02:31 PM   #3282
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easy:

http://www.nonags.com/nonags/fileren.html

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320167

http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/Download.php

and remember, there's a windows equivalent for every task you could imagine.
Okay... one(renaming with explorer) is limited to <newfilename(number)>, which is fine if that naming scheme works for you.
The other two are addons, again, not a big deal, but one(of many) reasons I dislike Windows is the lack of useful software included. Every Linux distro I've used has at least one tool for almost every task.
Anyway, whatever floats your little boat, right?
 
Old 05-12-2010, 02:33 PM   #3283
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Well 90% of the desktop market and 50% of the server market seems to be doing just fine with the GUI.
Oh, wow, now that I've seen those numbers I'm going to buy some Windows RIGHT AWAY!
 
Old 05-12-2010, 02:37 PM   #3284
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Hi,

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But it's really limited.

Those who refuse to use the command line, or do not even know it exists, and try to do everything by pointing and clicking are depriving themselves of the full power their computer has.
Those who insist on using the command line, and eschew all GUIs, are doing exactly the same.
I disagree with your last sentence but I do respect your opinion. I also understand the point but if you can work the cli and perform the duties required to accomplish a task(s) then there is no need to have a GUI. With a GUI you are limited to the author's expertize and hopefully the interface with the system is correct in all instances. With the cli you have direct control of the system and only limited by your own expertize.

Sure it's easy to use a GUI with point & click but you will hopefully accomplish the task effectively and not introduce problems. If you understand the shell and tools then anything is possible. If you learn a GUI you may be hidden from the intricacies of the system therefore limiting your abilities within a controlled environment. So from a system admin stand point and the GUI that has been properly written to accomplish a task the user will be able to be limited by the restricted control therefore less chance of creating issues. But you can accomplish the same task from the cli by restrictions & permissions via a well written script.

 
Old 05-12-2010, 02:41 PM   #3285
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Why does mattvdh seems to over concern himself with linux if he doesn't like it?

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