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Old 02-26-2011, 07:08 PM   #46
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1. First of all, as to the analogy of an os getting corrupt to a girl leaving you, this case is more like the firmware getting corrupted, leaving the device dead. And because the device is non-standard and obsolete, it cannot be flashed either. The only thing to do is to throw it away.

2. Call the police and do what? There's no 911 here. The local police can only get me committed to a state run mental institution, which is terribly understaffed and the whatever staff is there is highly underqualified. This will only make the situation worse, if anything.

3. I have never had any interest in anybody else before in my life - no girlfriends, no friends, nothing. I was more or less okay with my life. But she, I mean, I used to be so happy when I was with her. I used to treasure every moment we spent together, every word that she spent. And you know, in your mind you build a life around that person, and everything makes sense. I was actually looking looking forward to spending my life with her, growing old with her. I would have been so happy, you know. My life would have been worthwhile. But now, nothing.

4. As to closing this thread, surely no one is forcing anybody to read it. If anyone is not comfortable with this kind of stuff, they can just ignore it. Suicide and self-injury are as game for a non-*nix general forum as anything else.
 
Old 02-26-2011, 07:24 PM   #47
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1. First of all, as to the analogy of an os getting corrupt to a girl leaving you, this case is more like the firmware getting corrupted, leaving the device dead. And because the device is non-standard and obsolete, it cannot be flashed either. The only thing to do is to throw it away.

2. Call the police and do what? There's no 911 here. The local police can only get me committed to a state run mental institution, which is terribly understaffed and the whatever staff is there is highly underqualified. This will only make the situation worse, if anything.

3. I have never had any interest in anybody else before in my life - no girlfriends, no friends, nothing
this is where your problem is IMHO... you should have other options available...

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. I was more or less okay with my life. But she, I mean, I used to be so happy when I was with her. I used to treasure every moment we spent together, every word that she spent

All this is allright, but,


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. And you know, in your mind you build a life around that person, and everything makes sense. I was actually looking looking forward to spending my life with her, growing old with her. I would have been so happy, you know. My life would have been worthwhile. But now, nothing.
Things should make sense in a rather independent fashion... you gave away your control and you relied your self esteem in a third party... would you rely a strategic asset of a Nation to another Nation...?! Basically that is what you did... you gave away your self reliance, so she under-evaluated you... women evaluate EVERYTHING ... it is in their nature... besides, it is in FEMALE NATURE throughout the vertebrates, you know, breeding, survival of the fittest, territoriality, natural selection... humans shifted the "winner's signs" to stuff like social status and money...

You are an intelligent person, if you care to think, and meditate on what happened in hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution, it al starts to make sense.... it is very simple, really...

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4. As to closing this thread, surely no one is forcing anybody to read it. If anyone is not comfortable with this kind of stuff, they can just ignore it. Suicide and self-injury are as game for a non-*nix general forum as anything else.


These are just my opinions here...
 
Old 02-26-2011, 07:46 PM   #48
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There's no 911 here.
I don't know where "here" is.

Now, for the second time, what are you asking us to do?

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Old 02-26-2011, 07:56 PM   #49
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I don't know where "here" is.

Now, for the second time, what are you asking us to do?
My guess... the OP is asking us to share opinions and POV, so as to figure out possible ways out of an emotionally difficult condition...

Not asking explicitly, but sharing, and hoping other ppl to share with him, IMHO.
 
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I am currently on anti-depressants and mood stabilizers. My doctor recently reduced the dosage, which wasn't a good idea really, but there was no way he could have predicted what was about to happen.
Then you should schedule a follow-up appointment. H_TeXMeX_H already said this, but it needs to be said again.

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Old 02-26-2011, 09:24 PM   #51
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There are a couple of issue here, and I'm not referring to DJ yet either.

People are giving advice not even knowing, understanding or possibly even caring, about the cultural differences between the OP and themselves. There is also the point of not actually knowing many of the details, apart from the minute amount given by DJ himself, and then making value judgements about someones worth based on the skerick of information we can read.

@DJ, when you are with someone it is normal to think about your future with them. It is unfortunate that this has happened but you lived without someone before, you told us yourself, and you can do it again.

You haven't told us, and this isn't me asking you to, about the reasons behind her decision. It is unfair for any of us judge her for her actions if she has done this because her family have pushed her into it. I'm assuming your in a semi traditional area of India and if I'm correct her family will hold sway over her life until she is married. She would infact not be allowed to have a free will of her own and after she is married her family would probably expect her to follow her husband in every way so she didn't bring shame upon them.

The point I am trying to make is while people are trying to help you it is very difficult to do so simply because we do not know, and will probably never know, all the details.

EDIT: I was just thinking, we don't even know if you were actually in a relationship or if you assumed that because you were seeing her that this meant you were an item.

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Old 02-27-2011, 04:39 AM   #52
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3. I have never had any interest in anybody else before in my life - no girlfriends, no friends, nothing. I was more or less okay with my life. But she, I mean, I used to be so happy when I was with her. I used to treasure every moment we spent together, every word that she spent. And you know, in your mind you build a life around that person, and everything makes sense. I was actually looking looking forward to spending my life with her, growing old with her. I would have been so happy, you know. My life would have been worthwhile. But now, nothing.
Same here, I mean I never really had any friends or girlfriends or anything, maybe a few acquaintances that seemed nicer, but that's it, I never really considered them anything but acquaintances. However, even if I did find a "soul mate" and she were to leave me, I would not slit my belly just for that. Sure, I may feel depressed for a while, like you are now, but you'll get over it and her and find someone else. To help you with this is the medication your doctor gave you, and also talking to a psychiatrist. If you're looking for empathy, talk to a psychiatrist ASAP.

Don't worry, they will NOT put you in an institution for being depressed or even for suicidal thoughts, they will simply help you get over these depressing times and move on with your life. So, again, see your doctor or a psychiatrist, for your own good and future.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 09:44 AM   #53
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1. First of all,
First of all you aren't dead, which is good.

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3. I have never had any interest in anybody else before in my life - no girlfriends, no friends, nothing. I was more or less okay with my life. But she, I mean, I used to be so happy when I was with her. I used to treasure every moment we spent together, every word that she spent. And you know, in your mind you build a life around that person, and everything makes sense. I was actually looking looking forward to spending my life with her, growing old with her. I would have been so happy, you know. My life would have been worthwhile. But now, nothing.
Few things worth thinking about.
  • If you found one person you were interested in, you might find another.
  • Engagement != marriage (well, in SOME cultures, at least). Also, Engagement != apocalypse.
  • "Building life in your mind" was a mistake. In my experience, when some people think too much about somebody else, they sometimes idealize their interest (instead of actually spending time together and getting to know each other) and start to love image they created in their mind instead of actual person. This may easily turn into extremely painful experience - when person A is madly in love with A's image of person B, person B may know nothing about A's feeling. This *may* be your case, but I don't know for sure. Have you even talked to a girl about your feelings? People aren't telepaths and can't read your mind (and they're sometimes plain blind to the emotions of other people - you'll have to tell what you feel), but it is easy to forget that. People are flesh and blood, instead of thinking about them, try to spend more time together with person you like. From my experience, thinking too much (instead of actually doing something) is an extremely harmful habit.
  • You assume that if the girl gets engaged to YOU, it will be "and they lived happily ever after". Life is different, and there are many different ways relationship could go wrong or turn into something horrible.

Also, I'd recommend to get off the internet and solve your problems in "offline mode". Seeking for empathy on the internet isn't very different from, say, drinking alcohol. YOu find your group that feel empathy towards your situation, you get a bit of satisfaction, and since you feel better, you have no reason to fix the situation that caused you to become unhappy in the first place. Then everything repeats.

The best thing to do in your situation would be to take a vacation (at least 1 week) and relax as much as you can during that time. Well, at least that's how I would behave in your case. Once you cleared your head (sleeping and physical excercise helps), you can do something. For example, you could start looking for somebody else.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 11:26 AM   #54
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1. I told her a million times that I couldn't live without her. In fact towards the end I said to her - hey, marry anyone you want, but at least maintain a minimum level of contact with me. She wouldn't even give me that. The last time I talked to her, I begged her to let me be a small part of her life, but she called me an as/ho. Ain't I a pathetic loser?

2. In our culture,
Code:
gboolean find_another_match ;
gint reputation = 3 ; // Might be even less

#ifdef BIG_ENDIAN
#define LOSER 0
#else
#define LOSER 69
#endif

if ( engagement != marriage )
{
    find_another_match = g_ random_int_range ( 0, reputation ) ;
    reputation -- ;

    if ( reputation > 0 )
        marriage ( find_another_match ) ;
    else
        _exit_to_spinsterhood ( LOSER ) ;
}
3. Actually, in this particular case, engagement is equal to marriage, because she "loves\0" him, and she cares nothing for me or anybody else. I mean nothing to her.

7. I am getting professional help. Its just that there is no magic anti-love pill - even my psychatrist says so.

My arms hurt really bad from all the cutting All my arm is messed up with scars. Whenever I picture her with him, ugh, disgusting. I have to push her out my mind. My doctor has advised hospitalization, but I don't think I'll go along with it.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 11:33 AM   #55
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i guess i got lucky im still 13 . damn, i don't even want to think about women ..

but, anyways , take a look at the nature, animals, i saw that males fight with each other to show off in front of a female how powerful they are (which for humans is money anyways) then, the female stays with the most powerful, they make kids as soon as they can, take care of them a few months and then follow their lives(i guess) why humans do not get that "follow their lives" step. pretty sad

EDIT: WHY DID YOU SKIP 4,5 AND 6? you said 1,2 ,3 then jumped to 7?
 
Old 02-27-2011, 12:15 PM   #56
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i guess i got lucky im still 13 . damn, i don't even want to think about women ..
Me too (although I'm not quite that young), but I thought that if she doesn't like him and even called him an a****** just for wanting to stay in touch with her, how does he expect that they would live happily together if they got married?
 
Old 02-27-2011, 02:15 PM   #57
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There are a couple of issue here, and I'm not referring to DJ yet either.

People are giving advice not even knowing, understanding or possibly even caring, about the cultural differences between the OP and themselves. There is also the point of not actually knowing many of the details, apart from the minute amount given by DJ himself, and then making value judgements about someones worth based on the skerick of information we can read.
+1

and hey shouldnt 13yr olds be restricted from this topic

PS [had to write something more then 3 characters long ]
 
Old 02-27-2011, 03:12 PM   #58
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+1

and hey shouldnt 13yr olds be restricted from this topic

PS [had to write something more then 3 characters long ]
WAIT WHAT?

@MTK358 i see.. no one is so young around here. . i guess i'm the only 13 year old actually seeing so much potential in computers , OSs and internet in general rather than fighting out to see who's better.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 03:23 PM   #59
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@MTK358 i see.. no one is so young around here. . i guess i'm the only 13 year old actually seeing so much potential in computers , OSs and internet in general rather than fighting out to see who's better.
What do you mean?
 
Old 02-27-2011, 03:59 PM   #60
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So she's getting engaged today. Should I:

* Cut myself? ( I already did it once today )
* Kill myself and be done with it once and for all
* Bang my head against the wall until blood comes out.
* Crash my two-wheeler into a bus
* Jump off a bridge
* Walk in front of fast moving vehicles
* Combination of any of the above

What I can't understand is that millions of years of evolution have failed to erase suicidal tendencies from the gene pool. Surely they must perform some useful function - maybe its a device to ensure that the emotionally weak do not contribute to the next generation. In Nature, there is a reason for everything.
Move on with your life and forget about it. When you get older, you'll realize what trivia carp it was to even be worrying about it.

Luck!
 
  


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