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Originally Posted by dalek
I started out testing Gentoo. After a while, I stuck with it. I wouldn't change anything now tho. I think I picked the best. That's just my opinion. By the way, I have two rigs. Neither of them has ever seen anything M$. My CPU would most likely puke if I installed windoze. LOL
i'm interested in how you would define "the best"?
why is it the best?
the best for me would be that it works for my needs and i don't wanna mess with it much
that would be from the get go, nice, quick and easy to get going and no issues with basic net browsing stuff like flash
hate having to go into win cos whatever linux i may be in has some issue with basic net browsing
hate messin with wifi issues too, like getting it to work
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Piddling on your carpet, and looking cute and endearing while doing it?
ya know, i can't stand all that pup yappin going on myself, a very poor name for a distro that wears thin quick
they call it puppytude ughhh
i suggested a name change for the new pup, something related like k-9, wolf, coyote etc
the way you are welcomed in puppy world is heyyy
welcome to the kennels ..or something like that.. woof woof
then you will hear puppy chatter in every way shape and form that you could have never even imagined or begin to think of
if it was just for a starter basic distro of a bigger main one, that would be one thing, like others out there, tiny me, mini me etc or whatever others have come up with
but for the only thing you have to offer being named pup is certainly problematic form the get go for me now
wasn't a big deal when I started out though, matter of fact it was hilarious at first
i'm interested in how you would define "the best"?
why is it the best?
the best for me would be that it works for my needs and i don't wanna mess with it much
that would be from the get go, nice, quick and easy to get going and no issues with basic net browsing stuff like flash
hate having to go into win cos whatever linux i may be in has some issue with basic net browsing
hate messin with wifi issues too, like getting it to work
Well, one thing I like about Gentoo is it doesn't have as much problems handling dependencies like Mandrake did. The upgrade process on Mandrake was at times worse than going to the dentist. I upgraded to 9.2 then went back to 9.1. It may have had a higher number but for me, 9.2 plain sucked. It was slow as syrup at the North pole. That was when I starting looking for something else.
If you want something easy from the start, you are NOT interested in Gentoo. You may as well keep looking for something else. Gentoo takes some time and effort at first. It is really best to familiarize yourself with what you want and the settings to get that before you even start the install. I go by the docs but I do some things different when I do installs. Since I already have some config files that are ready to go, I copy those over before I even chroot in. That way, when I build the install, my settings are already there. I also sync and update before rebooting. I do that because I been through it a few times and know some shortcuts that work for my set up.
I don't have anything wifi but I have read on the mailing list that people install some program and wifi is a breeze after that. I have no idea. I have not had any problems browsing tho, except for when DSL is down anyway. That happens sometimes.
As for the best, well that is my opinion. I got time set aside for updates and I do mine daily. Most seem to do theirs on the weekend which would also work well. I like the way Gentoo upgrades, the speed with which the upgrades get to me, the stability and the mailing lists for when I do have issues. People that run Gentoo generally know a lot about Linux. I likely know more than even I realize. Trying fixing something when your internet is down. You learn that way. All you got is what you have between your ears.
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If you want something easy from the start, you are NOT interested in Gentoo. You may as well keep looking for something else. Gentoo takes some time and effort at first. It is really best to familiarize yourself with what you want and the settings to get that before you even start the install. I go by the docs but I do some things different when I do installs. Since I already have some config files that are ready to go, I copy those over before I even chroot in. That way, when I build the install, my settings are already there. I also sync and update before rebooting. I do that because I been through it a few times and know some shortcuts that work for my set up.
well ya got me curious and i'm not sure what the vm scenario is with gentoo but it has been very rare that a vm OS did not fire up for me to a start page and that alone would be interesting,
if she starts up i should then be able to poke around, and at least get a taste of the gentoo experience
what i like about vm, is that it simplifies all the - who knows what might be involved in this install - scenarios and lets you jump right into an OS, also more often than not, wifi is automatic
Amen to that! I waste half my day on the computer anyway!
Funny- I like Linux because I can have a distro that doesn't require constant updates (maybe Gentoo isn't for me) and doesn't require maintenance and constant tinkering with, and just allows me to use my computer and do what I have to do...but on the other hand, there are so many interesting distros out there; and it can be fun tinkering with Linux and learning and exploring new capabilities (when done by choice, not necessity) that I just want to mess with some other distros just for the sheer fun of it and the learning experience.
Say, Jonyo, have you ever looked at Debian? Of you're already familiar with Ubuntu, Debian is what Ubuntu is based on- only is even more stable and offers more configurability. You can do a "net install" of Debian (a minimal install) and then build and configure it to suit your needs. This is what I am going to do when I wipe Windows from my hard drive- I think it will be the best main OS for me- Then I'm gonna get another 'puter just to install various distros and play around...may even try Gentoo (If IO get a machine with good cooling) just to see what it's about.....
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Say, Jonyo, have you ever looked at Debian? Of you're already familiar with Ubuntu, Debian is what Ubuntu is based on- only is even more stable and offers more configurability. You can do a "net install" of Debian (a minimal install) and then build and configure it to suit your needs.
debian is mostly a word to me, i'm pretty sure i fiddled with a debian ubuntu, can't remember if they changed at some point
forgot about my start with a linspire 5.0 store bought tiger direct box and then freespire days, near the end for them, or that's the last i heard, i believe they went debian
if debian is out there vmware, i could certainly find out quick and look into that
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Debian is what Ubuntu is based on- only is even more stable and offers more configurability. You can do a "net install" of Debian (a minimal install) and then build and configure it to suit your needs.
other than "Debian is what Ubuntu is based on" the rest is mostly voodoo to me
done, on the net with both wifi auto, keyboard issue though with both (prob another would work) and hafta resize gentoo (done)
athlon64 3500+ 2gig ram xp
some folks call it a war and linux is losing, they also say that distro's are at war with each other
I don't think so. Linux is constantly improving and growing in popularity. The website called top500.org, lists stats twice a year of the most used operating systems in super computers.
The latest stats is here http://top500.org/stats/list/37/osfam
As you can see linux has a count of 455 to windows's 6 count.
Linux may not win the desktop market, but linux is sure doing well in other areas.
Last edited by RedNeck-LQ; 07-14-2011 at 10:34 PM.
Amen to that! I waste half my day on the computer anyway!
Which is a big problem, actually. Time is expensive, and OS is meant to aid you in your tasks instead of stealing all your time for trying extra options and configuring it. If you're a computer enthusiasts and linux is your hobby, it is one thing, but if you simply want to get the job done, then it might be more efficient to spend your cash instead of your time (and it certain situations it might actually make sense to pay somebody for setting up OS, so you'll have extra time for more important things). Nothing is free - you always pay for OS you get, either with cash, or with your time, and frequently, time costs more. IMO, you should keep that in mind.
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The African meaning of ubuntu means "I can't configure Debian"
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"Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "I can't configure Slackware"
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Originally Posted by RedNeck-LQ
Linux is constantly improving and growing in popularity.
I've been hearing this for a several years, and, frankly, results are still very unimpressive, besides for some reason you're very selective about statistics you present (supercomputers vs desktop). Yes, it is good for supercomputers and custom solutions, but that's standard niche for unix-likes (including BSD), which doesn't concern most people.
When I'll see linux on computers in shops, internet cafes and in workplaces, then there will be a reason to talk about popularity. Right it is possible to encounter linux KERNEL (just kernel, not "GNU/Linux operating system") on android devices, stripped down linux within a certain routers/modems, and that's about it. Linux desktops are extremely rare.
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