Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread
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At least in Linux I don't get constant BS notices that the machine must reboot as a gnat farted in the next county and windoze must accept. The other thing that I like is not having to pay for EACH license which again I feel is crap. Pay for a product that is not reliable, or for that matter stable? just because it comes built into most computers? I think this is one of the worst cases of things being forced upon the unsuspecting user. If you feel so strongly for M$ and/or Mac then by all means use those inferior products I'll stick with my Mint thank you very much!
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Defragging: Use NTFS, a separate data-partition and don't install/deinstall software non-stop, and it would be sufficient to do that once a month. By the way, you can do that in the background.
AV-scanning: Use a background scanner, not only a on-demand scanner, and it should be sufficient to do a full scan once a week. Can also run in the background.
A good system really should not need this kind of resource hungry app running at all. If M$ was a better OS it wouldn't need it! Hell I figure my old computer running windoze was about 4 times as slow as it is on Linux and I'm able to run more apps at the same time.
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You prove my point, just show, no real arguments. OK, you had one, the licensing issue, you have to pay for every copy of Windows. Besides that, my Vista, and before Windows 2000 and XP, were almost anytime stable (the same as in Linux, if I had to reinstall than it was me that borked the system). And no, I had no
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If you feel so strongly for M$ and/or Mac then by all means use those inferior products I'll stick with my Mint thank you very much!
LOL, one time more proven my point. Where have I said that I feel strongly for MS or Mac? You are not capable to have a fair look at the other OSes, you can give no real arguments, just ranting in a way that makes it hard to believe that you already are retired, and not a teenage fanboy.
A good system really should not need this kind of resource hungry app running at all. If M$ was a better OS it wouldn't need it! Hell I figure my old computer running windoze was about 4 times as slow as it is on Linux and I'm able to run more apps at the same time.
Wait until all people use Linux, just as you want. There will always be ways to compromise any OS, and that means Linux too. If Linux becomes the most used OS the count of viruses for Linux will make you run a antivirus software. And by the way, did you really sit there with a stopwatch, running the same software with the same tasks to make a fair benchmark? I doubt so.
Gee. Windows 7 and Vista won't run on my Panasonic CF-48 and Ibm T23 and my Asus EEEPC 701SD.
Gee. I don't have the funds to buy the latest and greatest computer/laptop in this economy.
Geeepeeeers. What is a knuckle dragging Neanderthal tattoed broke ass linux using biker gonna do?
I guess all the third world computer users using ancient gear should go back in their holes and get off the net because they can't afford a elitist lifestyle and toe the line.
I thought the American Can do attitude and that Semper Gumby would apply to this thread. Instead I see elitist drivel with no empathy for people challenged by their pocket book.
Not a programmer. Not rich. Just a Home user that appreciates what choices are supplied to me and if it was not for Gnu/Linux. I would probably never contributed my time to FOSS in appreciation and would not own a computer at all. I hated computers till I booted up my first Linux Disk. Windows was just good enough for buying Motorcycle parts off the net and tune Bikes.(DRM)
We can't be all cubicle script kiddies. Some of us are just plain old simple folk.
Gee. Windows 7 and Vista won't run on my Panasonic CF-48 and Ibm T23 and my Asus EEEPC 701SD.
Gee. I don't have the funds to buy the latest and greatest computer/laptop in this economy.
Geeepeeeers. What is a knuckle dragging Neanderthal tattoed broke ass linux using biker gonna do?
I guess all the third world computer users using ancient gear should go back in their holes and get off the net because they can't afford a elitist lifestyle and toe the line.
I thought the American Can do attitude and that Semper Gumby would apply to this thread. Instead I see elitist drivel with no empathy for people challenged by their pocket book.
Not a programmer. Not rich. Just a Home user that appreciates what choices are supplied to me and if it was not for Gnu/Linux. I would probably never contributed my time to FOSS in appreciation and would not own a computer at all. I hated computers till I booted up my first Linux Disk. Windows was just good enough for buying Motorcycle parts off the net and tune Bikes.(DRM)
We can't be all cubicle script kiddies. Some of us are just plain old simple folk.
To MisQuote Kanye West.
"Windows don't care about poor people"
It takes a lot of Money to create poverty.
May I ask if you would run Windows or Linux, if you could afford it, and a machine that runs Windows fine? No offense meant, I just want to know if you had switched if you didn't need to?
LOL, one time more proven my point. Where have I said that I feel strongly for MS or Mac? You are not capable to have a fair look at the other OSes, you can give no real arguments, just ranting in a way that makes it hard to believe that you already are retired, and not a teenage fanboy.
You didn't have to say it, it shows. It's rather obvious to anyone reading your posts. It's sort of funny. You want us to give windows a break but you don't seem to do the same for Linux. As I said before, I used to work on puters. We worked on Macs, NCR, Epson, IBMs and all sorts of other brands. When I built my first rig, I knew very little about Linux, very little. I had actually never even seen it. Thing is, windows was, and still is to me, so bad that I didn't even want to buy it. I installed Linux, sight unseen for me, and have loved it ever since.
You may have to read that twice to really grasp the lack of balance there. Windows product which I was familiar with or Linux which I had never seen. I chose Linux. It's not that I thought Linux was that good because I wasn't sure yet. It's that windows was that bad. After using Linux for the past 7 years or so, Linux is far better than windows ever dreamed of being.
You didn't have to say it, it shows. It's rather obvious to anyone reading your posts. It's sort of funny. You want us to give windows a break but you don't seem to do the same for Linux.
How do you come to that conclusion? I don't have any Microsoft OS on any of my system for I think over a year now. But I have used Windows from 95 to Vista (except ME), and at least the NT version were stable for me, because I knew how to take care about them. No non-stop defragging, no non-stop AV-scanning, no non-stop rebooting. And what? I changed to Linux, because I can do so much more with it. I know that it the better OS, you don't have to remind me. But only because I switched, I have to get rid of all fairness and become a fanboy? Windows was good, as long as it fitted my needs. It doesn't do it anymore. Does that mean I have to rant about it? Why? If you have to change your car because your needs have changed, do you rant all the time about your old car? Is that the way your mind works?
Well, mine not.
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Wait until all people use Linux, just as you want. There will always be ways to compromise any OS, and that means Linux too. If Linux becomes the most used OS the count of viruses for Linux will make you run a antivirus software.
Never said everybody should run Linux did I? Just in my home!
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And by the way, did you really sit there with a stopwatch, running the same software with the same tasks to make a fair benchmark? I doubt so.
tell me can you just look at a clock and see the second hand move? It is not rocket science here, it took over a minute for this same computer to boot up with vistuh where using Linux I'm online in about 35 seconds!
The real test of any consumer-oriented product is if it can do what the average end-user needs it to do, without the end-user having to be an expert on the actual workings of that product- much like a car. Most people who drive cars know little or nothing about the actual mechanical components which make their car function- they merely get in and turn the key and drive the car where they need to go.
Linux is like a new car.
Windows is Renault Le Car or Yugo.
I only wish I had tried Linux before getting rid of my [now]12 year-old IBM Aptiva 500MHz machine......as that baby ran almost as good with WIN98 as my current 3Ghz 'puter did with Vista. That baby would have SCREAMED with Linux!
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@ toby do you always feel superior to everyone ? or is it just a phase? you obviously don't give a damn what anyone says if it contradicts you ! you have ignored some statements but focus on what you want ... How about reading the entire post instead of only what you want to argue about. Sumguy said it very well; " The real test of any consumer-oriented product is if it can do what the average end-user needs it to do, without the end-user having to be an expert".
@ toby do you always feel superior to everyone ? or is it just a phase?
Nope, I feel not superior to everyone.
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you obviously don't give a damn what anyone says if it contradicts you !
I have my opinion. You have yours. I don't think that I have to give a damn, just because your opinion contradicts mine.
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you have ignored some statements but focus on what you want ... How about reading the entire post instead of only what you want to argue about.
Should I really comment on every little sentence you post? And why do you think that I don't read your whole posts? Just because of not commenting every little sentence?
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Sumguy said it very well; " The real test of any consumer-oriented product is if it can do what the average end-user needs it to do, without the end-user having to be an expert".
Isn't that exactly the reason the average end-user uses Windows? As I stated above:
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Windows was good, as long as it fitted my needs.
Isn't that somewhat the same? I switched to Linux because it works better for me. If Windows works for every one else, I don't care. I don't use it, and I don't want to use it. But I also have no reason to rant all the time about it, and I also see no reason not to give it a fair comparison.
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