The software I use in every install and that is not included in the DVD, AND would be likely of common interest:

A sustitute for Oracle´s JRE/JDK (which is in progress).
Htop (which is in current).
A desktop agnostic office suite (which you can install by hand as of today).

Other than that, most other software I use is so specific that there is no real need to include in the DVD.

I don´t use it.

Xpdf is fine, but is not fancy, nor comfortable to use with big files full of images. But it gets the work done, and if you don´t like it you can install another reader.

Me too. Encrypting the drives manually is not that hard, anyway.
MPlayer doubles as encoder and player (when properly configured). VLC is a good player, but it´s encoding capabilities are very lacking when compared with MPlayer´s. If I had to choose between MP and VLC, I´d go with MP every time. I suppose that The Man has already made this comparison and decided that he doesn´t want to include 45 apps to do the same thing. You don´t want to have 45 video encoders installed.

There is already a light file manager. I also like PCmanfm, anyway.

That´s it. I guess the idea is to have in the DVD a generic collection of software so most people can adapt to it, not to have every imaginable applicattion. Many have said they would like to see lots of software I don´t use included. If I told the adittional software I use, less than 5% would find it useful.

I agree about urxvt. It could easily replace rxvt imo.
Regarding mpd, moc was added a while back so that takes care of modern console based players imo. PS. im a cmus user.

I suppose I can list some good quality apps that maybe should be considered for inclusion in Slackware:
viewnior
geany
libreoffice
zathura (pdf viewer)
gnumeric
p7zip

Many seem dissatisfied with LILO probably because it does not lend itself well to multi-boot situations. GRUB legacy is not supported anymore and will not compile on a pure 64 installation. I also suspect that it does not support ext4.

GRUB2 looks promising but takes some work to come to terms. I am currently booting from it and I met no insurmountable problems: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqABn9KM1Cw

I wrote to Volkerding about it but I got the silence treatment. What do you guys think should be the default boot loader and the one in /extra?

Chris

thumbs up for Viewnior

lilo..

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Defenitely lilo; I don't want a bootloader that needs drivers for the disk it boots from... I want a bootloader that just works. Lilo does that.

Frankly, I think how Slackware has done things in the past and is still doing is the best approach: let the user decide what software to use.

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KeepNote

http://rasm.ods.org/keepnote/

Second thoughts, perhaps it wouldnt be a good idea to add this prog, there is a slackbuild, probably best to keep it that way. I do like KeepNote though

Transmission will be good too.

From your responses I understand that most of us prefer LILO as the default bootloader.

As I seem to be the onely one that prefers GRUB, than I can openly declare that I prefer GRUB2 over GRUB for the reasons I already mentioned above.

Taking LILO away is not an option! I would not complain if Grub was offered during installation either.

I think I don´t have to explain why I prefer LILO. I must write, just in case, that this thread was not supposed to host a Holy War - although I think it is unevitable in the long term.

We have better things to do that getting involved in LILO v.s. GRUB war. We are just spoilt for choice that's all. This is typical in Linux. Back in the nineties, I used to find the idea of multiple Linux Distributions as disturbing. One matures and everything starts to fall in its place. Flame wars and trolling are for children and I have seen very little of them in this forum while good advise and insightful help are abundant.

OK now if you give me a minute I will tell you why LILO sucks :-)

Not the only one, I use grub, it's much easier to tweak in my opinion, I use a number of different partitions with different distros so its just a case of changing the menu.lst file ( I don't like grub2, over complicated )

Of course I am not in the GRUB2 selling business, so I have no problems with your preferences, but this is how it is done with GRUB2:

# grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

... should suffice.

Go on then, enlighten us poor lilophiles.
OK, your 60 seconds start now...
...too late.