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Old 08-30-2010, 07:12 AM   #421
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If it were not for Alien Bob I would not be using an x86_64 Slack system... !
 
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:16 AM   #422
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If it were not for Alien Bob I would not be using this x86_64 Slackware system... LOL



Sod it what happened there... looks like PEBKAC

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Old 08-30-2010, 08:44 AM   #423
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is there a formula to calculate reputation ?

is there a ranking of top reppers ?
 
Old 08-30-2010, 09:08 AM   #424
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I would like to add minor point

a newbie is likely to use the reputation number as a guide.....meaning they believe person X over person Y due the higher number.

But this wrong.....SOME times

The reply entity may have skills in sound or wireless but no skills in raid or security.

IMHO, the reputation system is not perfect and never will.
No system is ever perfect. While I think new members will likely use the rep as a guide, I still think they're read and process each post on its own merit. We'll likely be adding some component of per-forum rep in the future to address some of your last point.

Of course, the first reply may be correct but poorly phrased.

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2) So will reputation include some metric of grammer....I hope not as mine tends to be shite.
We have no plans to add a grammar (or spelling ) component to the rep system.

--jeremy
 
Old 08-30-2010, 09:12 AM   #425
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Maybe. But who would you rather take notice of, if we were giving you contradictory answers? Me (rep: 58) or Alien Bob (registered Sept. 2005; posts: 3284; rep: 46)?
You're using stats from a system that is still in beta and is only a couple days old, which is disingenuous at best.

--jeremy
 
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:15 AM   #426
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I've applied the one time rep bump based on some metrics from the old "Thanks" system.

--jeremy
 
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:20 AM   #427
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You're using stats from a system that is still in beta and is only a couple days old, which is disingenuous at best.

--jeremy
Yeah, but a new member could have jumped to the wrong conclusion, without investigating further, that I was a more reliable source of information than Eric, or several other Slackers.
Thanks for fixing it.
 
Old 08-30-2010, 09:23 AM   #428
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I'm a bit frustrated with this system.
That's clear. It's unfortunately nearly impossible to make a system that will please the half million people who have registered for LQ. Believe me, I try exceedingly hard to do so.

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The more I think of it, the more unfair and non-motivating it seems. Mostly because with the Thanks system, for example, you just have a number that you can compare to your post count.
A number that had absolutely no meaning, no consistency and in the end no actual relevance to a posts *quality*. We're going to work to ensure the new system is significantly better in all regards.

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Also, if someone thanks you, you get thanked no matter what. We mostly help newbies here and getting less rep for helping them is downright unfair and discouraging for me!
I think you're misunderstanding general statistics and how the system will actually be used.

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I think that for this to have a hope of being fair, all the numbers need to be preset. For example:

Add Rep: 1 point
Helpful: 0.5 points
Unhelpful: -0.1 points
Remove Rep: -0.5 points

or something like that. Note that because the same amount of rep is added/removed no matter who pushes the button, it's a good way to see how many people you helped. Also, because the full "Add Rep" is 1 point, it can be directly compared to your post count.
The above is less fair than what we've implemented for reasons I've detailed to you earlier in this thread. Also, it can *never* be compared to post count because we implemented it over 10 years after people started posting.

--jeremy
 
Old 08-30-2010, 09:25 AM   #429
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An update on one of the currently open issues:

New members will need a certain number of posts (similar to the "Thanks" system) but no rep for them repping a another member to actually give out points. Members with a single post yet less than the needed number of posts can still use the system, they simply will not give off any points.

--jeremy
 
Old 08-30-2010, 09:30 AM   #430
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Another update after reading all feedback and observing how the system is being used.

* We've reduced the spread of rep altering power across the board and have placed a cap on the maximum altering power you can reach.

--jeremy
 
Old 08-30-2010, 09:50 AM   #431
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Another update after reading all feedback and observing how the system is being used.

* We've reduced the spread of rep altering power across the board and have placed a cap on the maximum altering power you can reach.

--jeremy
Hi Jeremy,

Can you elaborate a bit further on that? Maybe I'm just dumb or have lost track yet again, but I don't understand a thing about what you're referring too. What's the 'spread of rep altering power' and what cap is there put on it?

Kind regards,

Eric
 
Old 08-30-2010, 09:59 AM   #432
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New members will need a certain number of posts (similar to the "Thanks" system) but no rep for them repping a another member to actually give out points.
You didn't mention the number of posts one needs to have to add a repute point. Is it 50 or something ?
 
Old 08-30-2010, 10:10 AM   #433
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The number of posts is quite low and is actually identical to the number needed to use the old Thanks system. To decrease gaming we probably won't release the actual number (and it's of course subject to change).

--jeremy
 
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:11 AM   #434
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Can you elaborate a bit further on that? Maybe I'm just dumb or have lost track yet again, but I don't understand a thing about what you're referring too. What's the 'spread of rep altering power' and what cap is there put on it?
A member who just joined, has very few posts and no rep will give off a single point. The number of points goes up based on those three factors. We've decreased the rate at which it goes up and have capped the maximum number.

--jeremy
 
Old 08-30-2010, 10:15 AM   #435
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A member who just joined, has very few posts and no rep will give off a single point. The number of points goes up based on those three factors. We've decreased the rate at which it goes up and have capped the maximum number.

--jeremy
Hi,

Thanks for explaining that. By capping the maximum number you mean the maximum number one can have in the reputation system, right? Or are you referring to the maximum number of rep one can get in one day?

Kind regards,

Eric
 
  


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