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Old 07-21-2020, 10:48 AM   #16
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When someone asks you to post the output of running a command, it's usually the error messages they're after...

Ideally, copy & paste the text, or take a screenshot, or failing that, a photo (which has been shrunk for web use).

Alright, I'll attach a photo when I get time
 
Old 07-21-2020, 10:54 AM   #17
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I feel really bad for the OP. Linux is wonderful - and what we want, but it sounds like they had no idea and are now getting a bad taste of Linux. We chose it and they had it thrust upon them unknowingly.

So, I'm gonna try to take a stab at explaining something without too much tech.

OP: What you have installed is a Linux OS. It is very different than the Windows OS that you're used to. It does have applications that you open with a click of the mouse, it does have a browser to surf the web, and things will look rather familiar. On the off-chance that you have Chrome installed, that is technically even a Linux-based OS.

When people want you to 'run a command' they want you to open the terminal (Crosh), type those commands (use copy/paste if it's easier), press enter, and then tell them the output.

Before they can give you any real help, they need to know what OS (operating system) you're using. There are many, many types of Linux. Then, on top of that, there are tons of different window managers and desktop environments. All these words will be familiar to you in time. Right now, many of them don't make much sense - and that's okay.

See, Linux is *just* the kernel. The kernel is the small inner bit that ties everything together and makes things work. The environment around it is what you'll be dealing with and what you'll be seeing. You will get used to it in time.

That's just it - it's going to take time. You'll get frustrated but you can, and will, learn. In time, you'll perhaps grow to prefer it above other choices.

So, expect some frustration and ask careful questions. This was a horrible way for you to be introduced to Linux, but that doesn't change the fact that this is where you are right now. The people here are very, very knowledgeable. They want to help you help yourself. You just have to help them by being willing to learn new things, try new things, read new things, and think a little differently.
 
Old 07-21-2020, 11:11 AM   #18
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I feel really bad for the OP. Linux is wonderful - and what we want, but it sounds like they had no idea and are now getting a bad taste of Linux. We chose it and they had it thrust upon them unknowingly.

So, I'm gonna try to take a stab at explaining something without too much tech.

OP: What you have installed is a Linux OS. It is very different than the Windows OS that you're used to. It does have applications that you open with a click of the mouse, it does have a browser to surf the web, and things will look rather familiar. On the off-chance that you have Chrome installed, that is technically even a Linux-based OS.

When people want you to 'run a command' they want you to open the terminal (Crosh), type those commands (use copy/paste if it's easier), press enter, and then tell them the output.

Before they can give you any real help, they need to know what OS (operating system) you're using. There are many, many types of Linux. Then, on top of that, there are tons of different window managers and desktop environments. All these words will be familiar to you in time. Right now, many of them don't make much sense - and that's okay.

See, Linux is *just* the kernel. The kernel is the small inner bit that ties everything together and makes things work. The environment around it is what you'll be dealing with and what you'll be seeing. You will get used to it in time.

That's just it - it's going to take time. You'll get frustrated but you can, and will, learn. In time, you'll perhaps grow to prefer it above other choices.

So, expect some frustration and ask careful questions. This was a horrible way for you to be introduced to Linux, but that doesn't change the fact that this is where you are right now. The people here are very, very knowledgeable. They want to help you help yourself. You just have to help them by being willing to learn new things, try new things, read new things, and think a little differently.
I researched more info and Cloudready is the os. It's a chrome os unfortunately. Now I have to figure out how to install Windows programs using that
 
Old 07-21-2020, 11:27 AM   #19
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As I understand it, CloudReady is just a tool to convert any computer into an imitation of a Chromebook, so you need help for Chrome OS. This shows you how to install Ubuntu Linux software on it
https://technastic.com/gnome-softwar...-on-chrome-os/
If you must have Windows software,
https://www.howtogeek.com/173353/how...-a-chromebook/
 
Old 07-21-2020, 11:28 AM   #20
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As I understand it, CloudReady is just a tool to convert any computer into an imitation of a Chromebook, so you need help for Chrome OS. This shows you how to install Ubuntu Linux software on it
https://technastic.com/gnome-softwar...-on-chrome-os/
If you must have Windows software,
https://www.howtogeek.com/173353/how...-a-chromebook/
Thank you
 
Old 07-21-2020, 11:31 AM   #21
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Ok, the original OS on the HP Pavilion X2 was probably Windows 10 Home edition. The OP could be running Chromium OS but doubtful Elementary since the OP mentions crosh and Google play store.

Posting exact error messages would help. While I think Chromium/ChromeOS uses sudo I don't think apt is part of its base utilities.

If it is running Chromium and confirmed since I missed a few posts and since your completely unfamiliar with non Windows operating system I would suggesting dumping it and installing Elementary or maybe Mint.

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Old 07-21-2020, 11:34 AM   #22
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Ok, the original OS on the HP Pavilion X2 was probably Windows 10 Home edition. The OP could be running Chromium OS but doubtful Elementary since the OP mentions crosh and Google play store.

Posting exact error messages would help. While I think Chromium/ChromeOS uses sudo I don't think apt is part of its base utilities.

If it is running Chromium and confirmed since a missed a few posts and since your completely unfamiliar with non Windows operating system I would suggesting dumping it and installing Elementary or maybe Mint.
I'm seeing chromium and Cloudready. I think Cloudready is the OS, from what I looked up. Google play store is installed, but I can't use it as it is not even compatible. I'll be posting a photo a bit later on, because I'm not near my computer right now, I'm away from home
 
Old 07-21-2020, 01:26 PM   #23
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Konee said in the first post that Cloudready was installed. This is Chrome OS for other computers than ChromeBooks. It's not a Linux or Android distro, so can't use either Play Store or any Linux repo. Unless it has what you want built in, you are better off checking out a real Linux distro. Here's an article by someone running Linux on a Pavilion tablet PC.

https://dev.to/marcoieni/linux-on-my...ngly-good-51a8
 
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Old 07-21-2020, 02:01 PM   #24
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IIRC, Chrome OS is Linux inasmuch as Android is. There's a Linux kernel in there somewhere. I have a Chromebook around here somewhere.
 
Old 07-21-2020, 10:45 PM   #25
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As I understand it, CloudReady is just a tool to convert any computer into an imitation of a Chromebook, so you need help for Chrome OS. This shows you how to install Ubuntu Linux software on it
https://technastic.com/gnome-softwar...-on-chrome-os/
If you must have Windows software,
https://www.howtogeek.com/173353/how...-a-chromebook/
Okay, I managed to figure out how to download and install Crouton to switch back and forth, but now I'm wondering how to save what I typed in the crosh terminal, or can I just close the window? It already installed everything
 
Old 07-21-2020, 11:00 PM   #26
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Chromium is the browser, not the operating system.

Elementary OS has documentation that includes software installation. It seems to be based on Ubuntu.

To install Wine from the command line, try
Code:
sudo apt install wine
where sudo gives you administrator powers and apt is the advanced packaging tool used in Debian, Ubuntu and derived Linux distributions.

OBS has instructions for installation on Ubuntu. They may work for you as well.

Medibang Paint seems to be Windows software; I don't know how to install it with Wine. However, you should have painting software in the Elementary app store, and video editing software as well.

To be certain that this is Elementary OS, type cat /etc/lsb-release.
Sorted everything out now, but how do I save everything? I keep trying to Google it, but I haven't seen a way to save. I managed to download crouton, but can I just close the terminal or? I don't wanna lose everything
 
Old 07-22-2020, 12:58 AM   #27
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I haven't seen a way to save.
Save what?

Do you absolutely need to run Chrome OS? Installing a "normal" Linux distro like Mint or MX is fairly easy and doesn't require workarounds like "Ubuntu on Chrome OS" or Crouton. You just a way to create installation media like a USB thumb drive or a DVDROM. A second computer, a friend with a computer, a library that allows you to download and burn software, etc.

What kind of computer is that? A normal PC or a Chromebook?
If you don't know, how did you arrive at the decision to buy it?
 
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Old 07-22-2020, 09:17 AM   #28
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Save what?

Do you absolutely need to run Chrome OS? Installing a "normal" Linux distro like Mint or MX is fairly easy and doesn't require workarounds like "Ubuntu on Chrome OS" or Crouton. You just a way to create installation media like a USB thumb drive or a DVDROM. A second computer, a friend with a computer, a library that allows you to download and burn software, etc.

What kind of computer is that? A normal PC or a Chromebook?
If you don't know, how did you arrive at the decision to buy it?
It was originally a windows 10 computer. I was lied to and told that the OS was changed to elementary os but it's on chrome os. Anyway, I got everything sorted out and when I get time I'll change the OS to something else.
 
Old 07-22-2020, 09:44 AM   #29
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Personally I would do as suggested and just use Linux only or even Windows 10 since it seems you really want to run a bunch of Windows applications anyway. You can certainly run Windows applications in wine on Linux but some apps do not work so you may encounter issues.
 
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I have 128gb of storage on an SD card and I bought an HP Pavilion X2 detachable 10in with a touch screen.
Is this the computer in question?

It should be possible to install a full GNU/Linux distribution on that: https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebo...0/td-p/4810665
 
  


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