a men to that
im used to longhorns spell filter
its horrible to begin with
soon there will be translators needed for
b8ta 7str to english!

dont suppose anyonbe knows what cipher strenth is?
most browsers have 128bit
but lh has 256bit
dunno what that means

that screenshot is actually ie6 with a modified gui. Look at help>about.

And slate> all other new longhorn themes.

Here's the truth for those playing at home:

M$ does not pay beta testers. Beta testers who actively submit usable feedback receive a free license for the full version of the OS. If you provide enough feedback M$ may get generous and give you a free copy of M$ Office as well. They do not pay cash. Thank you for playing. This is another case where "facts isn't x-32b's field of expertise" to borrow another user's statement.

What the browser natively supports doesn't bring much benefit, really, since the site's certificate generally provides the required algorithm. Administrators have been able to implement 1024-bit and 2048-bit certificates for sites for quite a few years now, so please enlighten us as to what the benefit is - please!

M$ Office, OOo, and even WordPerfect don't already recover data like this? Granted, you don't get the little bang in the system tray (a whoop-de-^H^H^H^H feature) but they do prompt you and say effectively "D'oh! We crashed, but fortunately for you, we saved your sorry behind by caching your data. Would you like it recovered?" to which of course you click "Recover".

Edit: x-b32, it looks like you've bought into the Microsoft FUD Hook, line, and sinker. Why you're evangelizing Longhorn on a Linux board, I will never figure out.

From the one screenshot, it looks like M$ is ripping off SUN's Lookingglass technology... Wonder if they actually paid anything for it, or will just blatently use their bankroll to crush SUN into dust after stealing it?!?!?

[B]SO LET ME GET THIS STRIGHT YOU THINK THEY GIVE FULL BUILDS TO NORMAL PEOPLE WHO SIGN UP.THEN YOU ARE YOU INSANE
THAT IS GRUNT WORK

NO THIS IS A 1 YEAR OLD BUILD APPROX AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TESTING 4074 FOR TINY ERRORS OR SOME OTHER HACKED DOWN 3 YEAR OLD BUILD

THE SECURITY IN AN "INTERNAL" REQUIRES TELEPHONE PERSON TO PERSON ACTIVATION DURING THE BOOT.The security is unreal.

many people seem to believe that tosh but comon you think they give away internals to little boys.[B]

as for your questions
autorestore is an os feture making it impossible to detect a crash the crash has no negitive effects.
Im A linux user too
And Yes thats ie6 but ie7 looks the same with the zaxis stuff

err ive seen that built from scratch i didnt see any foulplay

i mjight work for ms but im a good guy,my friend brian called me up at 12 last night and sent me a mail with
that BB thing

OMG so cool
i thought it was a fake when i seen the shot
did they make an os out of it?

Do you have any clue how funny this is?

I have both worked for the Evil Empire (Microsoft) and I have participated in beta programs so I know very well how they work. Just FYI: when I've participated in beta programs, I've submitted detailed feedback (may I mention also that there was no 1337 5p34k to be found anywhere in my defect reports?), with debug info when it was available, usability info, as well as complaints about IP stack problems and limitations, and I have received goodies like the full retail-boxed Windows license as well as other programs like M$ Office for my efforts. No cash though - Microsoft does not pay beta testers. Get that through you skull and quit trying to play yourself up on here. No one reading your posts believes you, except possibly other 13-year-olds who also think that 1337 5p34k is still cool (it isn't. It was cool for about five minutes back in the WWW's infancy).

If you think clicking around as an end user, playing with the latest Microsoft toy in the comfort of your home is grunt work, well, you're in for a culture shock when you are in the real world.

It's actually a sad statement of the current state of most public schools here in America.

believe wat you want
now try to find 1 page on the net giving info on 42xx

you cant because info hasnt been relesed yet..apart from mine

where did that 42xx info come from
theres only one possible place microsoft

Before you question my background ask yoiurself where this came from

IF NO INFO ON IT IS AVABLE ON THE NET

search for LONGHORN BUILDwildcardwildcard
on the net see what resusults you get
NONE



Review
for the Preliminary Release of
Microsoft® Windows®
Code Name "Longhorn" Build 4082-42xx

So its been a long wait but i can finaly share with you the new fetures etc.
Again this is based on my REAL hands on experince with the builds.
So no spin just the facts.

First some problems printscreen isnt working but the gui hasnt chanded at all
since 4074\4082 avalon shots.So im having trouble getting my screenshots ill find an app to bypass this soon.

Instalation

The same install as 4074\4082
its a simple 3 step process.As with you can install in windows xp (it takes 12 min) reboot to be greeted with your new desktop.

Youll have the option to change whats installed,in reality there are 2 operating systems
installed "Media center" and "Longhorn" ,More on that later.
What is strange is the bootable dvd install you have new options

when you insert the dvd and boot from it
your greeted with a boot screen like the xp one but....thers no windows installed yet
This is windows pe preinstallation enviornment
when it loads you get the fimiler welcome screen from the dvd install
but now there are some new options

install windows ..normal 12 min install

proform aditional tasks..normal but click here

proform aditional tasks\scan
proform aditional tasks\repair
proform aditional tasks\boot

scan
my experience with faith.zip was a precursor to this
its a bootable virus scrubber.

repair
this is a tool to fix serios problems like missing or currupted files in the os
itll fix the ones needed by the os before the login screen

boot
Yep you guessed it its a Knoppix like experience
a striped down os like win 2000 that boots from the dvd.
itll let you edit files copy them etc no media player or paint etc


New fetures since build 4074\4082

well apart from the dvd installer theres a bootable media center os
intagrated virus scanning\removal,New Internet Explorer (a mozzie killer),
Media Player 10 is replaced,Better burning support,A good firewall,NO BALOONS,
New avalon Desktop,Layred Browsing,A simpletron mode,Better Voice control
And a cupple of others

Naff Changes
Again My Computer is now Computer
new wallpaper(for crap pcs who cant use avalon desktops)

Avalon

Fundimental Changes
A cuple of new things.
1 Windows can no be moved in and out in layers ie click on the titlebar move the scrollwhell in the window moves back a layer.
2 the icon layout thas changed, thumbnails are on by default and aranged in layers

Desktop

Ive talked about a 3d desktop before but its here THE "WALLPAPER" IS A 3D BACKGROUNDthere are 2 different ones a tree in a field and some moterway in america
Both are like a scene from a film.
the tree moves in the wind ITS IN 3D day and night are synched with your desktop the sun comes up and it gets brighter The wether changes from day to day.

The same with the moterway in the desert
Cars and stuff go up and down it,the light as the sun comes up shines onto the sidebar
Weird stuff but our 3d os is here.
Now ill be the first person to say this is useless but its kind of like staring out the window
i think its a nice tuch espicly when listeng to "media player" it gives you something to look at.
Give me a New York one please...

Layered Browsing

This is a simple one before i explain
dont try to compair this to a folder in xp os it work there
open up a folder and you get a list of icons and a scroll bar
here the scroll bar is kaput This is used in internet explorer aswell

now turn on thumbnails, in longhorn these are panes of glass suspended in a folder in layers
move the wheel in on your mouse and the "camra" flys in one layer
you see the next layer of files...
Simple and incredibly cool

Ghost Windows

Open up computer with the thumbnails on.now if your using media player and you maximise computer media player "flys" a layer behind your files move the camra in to use it and out ahain to view your files.This can be done with any .exe by clicking on the titlebar with the scrollwheel button.

New Applications

Media center

This is a replacement for media player 10 basicly its the media center edition of xp but its bootable.

when you select it at the boot menu it loads allmost instintly and your greeted with the dvd installers background pic.and the same colordepth\res as when you instyall xp (that screen where it asks for the cd key)
there are 5 objects

my music -intagrated music player
my video -intagrated movie player
my pictures -intagrated picture viewer
play dvd -intagrated dvd player
import -import files from a cd\dvd\memcard etc (wizard)

Functions are the same as media player 10 play dvd,wma,avi
sadly there is no tv recording mode.
In the os its a fullscreen app with ccontrols intagrated into the sidebar giving you an ipod style view of whats playing the cd pic etc its very easy to use and is built into the os ie it loads as part of the os

Internet explorer

Well its a fox killer
ive allready said before it could stop all of those search bar trogens where mozzie gets infected but now
it has layred browsing.
to explain if you have two windows open in fox you can tab through them in ie they are aranged on the Z axis in layers click your mos wheel in or click on the windows icon and the camra moves in through the web page to show the next page.
Its got a dap style download manager with pause resume multiple connections etc
its got an alarming black list of trogen links.
it has a built in cleaner to remove trogens like hijack this.
it seems to be nearly imune to trogens after 3 minuter on a rom site i usualy have xxx toolbar,cool web search etc but ive been there yesterday and the worst i got was a trogen error,os not supported!


Microsofts new search engine

google lovers beware microsofts finaly come up with a new idea.
on the bar youll see the search tile if you click on it and if you type longhorn.
you get a transperent window eith your rusults.no graphics to download just rusults and its fast realy fast
google seems to be in some serious trouble here...

Control Center
like Xteq Systems X-Setup this gives you hunderds of options in a catogry view that are not avable in the control pannel like tweaks and hacks for ie and other apps

thats all the New fetures since build 4074\4082

cud u translate dat post 2 english plz?

This is really a bit sad, isn't it...

What part?

The crappy grammar?

That someone is trying to evangelize the virtues of Windows on a Linux board, where people are trying to get AWAY from Windows?

That a wannabe is trying to convince former Microserfs (I know I'm not the only former Microserf on this board) that M$ pays beta testers?

Or, the whole thread in general?

This is a Linux board. While choosing the right tool for a job is perfectly valid so of course sometimes Windows will be the right choice for a purpose, and in others Linux may be the best choice, and in yet other situations MacOS//OS/x will be the right choice - but proselytizing Windows is more appropriate on oh, say, alt.lamer.microsoft.fanboys.die.die.die than it is on linuxquestions.org.

Has x-32b contributed to any legitimate threads on the board? Has he participated in any Linux-related topics? Or, has he only posted Microsoft FUD he has swallowed hook, line, and sinker, and trying to play up his role as a lowly beta tester as being something larger than what it is?

x-32b, everyone sees through you and there are plenty of Windows advocate discussion boards available for you to post your Longhorn "reviews" on. I think I speak for nearly every Linux user on here when I say:

We don't care about longhorn.

It's also worth noting that I've had my hands on Longhorn for nearly three years now as an MSDN Universal subscriber - and what's more, I haven't had to sign any NDA for it. Anyone who subscribes to MSDN Universal gets all of the betas and sometimes alpha builds of operating systems, development environments, application servers, and other prerelease items.

You, as a beta tester, have signed an NDA are violating your NDA in multiple ways and can actually be taken to court by M$ for violating that. Granted, being a minor it's unlikely you'd be prosecuted - your parents would be likely to be liable for civil damages, however.

You know, I'm half-tempted to drop a line with the URL to this thread to M$ via the M$ corporate web site - instead I'll just IM one of my Microserf friends who is on the Visual Studio team instead, and he could directly submit the URL to his superiors if he could feel bothered. Why? Because you're just begging to be prosecuted for violating your NDA in such an annoying way on a board where we just plain don't care about Windows. It's likely he couldn't be bothered, but who knows, if he's in a lull at work and is bored enough that pursuing it might provide a few minutes' amusement he may very well forward the URL on.