Oh, another thing NTFS supports but is implemented in neither the GUI nor the API: File versioning.

It owes a heck of a lot more to VMS's filesystem than to HPFS. HPFS is not much more than FAT on steroids. NTFS is based on a totally different architecture; one stolen^H^H^H^H^H^Hborrowed directly from VMS - which is no coincidence, considering that the former chief architect of VMS became the chief architect of Windows NT after he left Digital (he's the guy who just left M$ for Google).

As I say, I don't really know the history of NTFS, but it just gives the impression that it was bought or stolen and then poorly integrated into the OS. I don't deny it's a good filesytem. I would like it more openned up for interoperability purposes tho...

Well ive been emailed with your responces
and hers the final nail in the coffin
a new build

hers my review (on a 256mb 1.6ghz pc)

Review
for the Preliminary Release of
Microsoft® Windows®
Code Name "Longhorn" Build 4082-42xx

So its been a long wait but i can finaly share with you the new fetures etc.
Again this is based on my REAL hands on experince with the builds.
So no spin just the facts.

First some problems printscreen isnt working but the gui hasnt chanded at all
since 4074\4082 avalon shots.So im having trouble getting my screenshots ill find an app to bypass this soon.

Instalation

The same install as 4074\4082
its a simple 3 step process.As with you can install in windows xp (it takes 12 min) reboot to be greeted with your new desktop.

Youll have the option to change whats installed,in reality there are 2 operating systems
installed "Media center" and "Longhorn" ,More on that later.
What is strange is the bootable dvd install you have new options

when you insert the dvd and boot from it
your greeted with a boot screen like the xp one but....thers no windows installed yet
This is windows pe preinstallation enviornment
when it loads you get the fimiler welcome screen from the dvd install
but now there are some new options

install windows ..normal 12 min install

proform aditional tasks..normal but click here

proform aditional tasks\scan
proform aditional tasks\repair
proform aditional tasks\boot

scan
my experience with faith.zip was a precursor to this
its a bootable virus scrubber.

repair
this is a tool to fix serios problems like missing or currupted files in the os
itll fix the ones needed by the os before the login screen

boot
Yep you guessed it its a Knoppix like experience
a striped down os like win 2000 that boots from the dvd.
itll let you edit files copy them etc no media player or paint etc


New fetures since build 4074\4082

well apart from the dvd installer theres a bootable media center os
intagrated virus scanning\removal,New Internet Explorer (a mozzie killer),
Media Player 10 is replaced,Better burning support,A good firewall,NO BALOONS,
New avalon Desktop,Layred Browsing,A simpletron mode,Better Voice control
And a cupple of others

Naff Changes
Again My Computer is now Computer
new wallpaper(for crap pcs who cant use avalon desktops)

Avalon

Fundimental Changes
A cuple of new things.
1 Windows can no be moved in and out in layers ie click on the titlebar move the scrollwhell in the window moves back a layer.
2 the icon layout thas changed, thumbnails are on by default and aranged in layers

Desktop

Ive talked about a 3d desktop before but its here THE "WALLPAPER" IS A 3D BACKGROUNDthere are 2 different ones a tree in a field and some moterway in america
Both are like a scene from a film.
the tree moves in the wind ITS IN 3D day and night are synched with your desktop the sun comes up and it gets brighter The wether changes from day to day.

The same with the moterway in the desert
Cars and stuff go up and down it,the light as the sun comes up shines onto the sidebar
Weird stuff but our 3d os is here.
Now ill be the first person to say this is useless but its kind of like staring out the window
i think its a nice tuch espicly when listeng to "media player" it gives you something to look at.
Give me a New York one please...

Layered Browsing

This is a simple one before i explain
dont try to compair this to a folder in xp os it work there
open up a folder and you get a list of icons and a scroll bar
here the scroll bar is kaput This is used in internet explorer aswell

now turn on thumbnails, in longhorn these are panes of glass suspended in a folder in layers
move the wheel in on your mouse and the "camra" flys in one layer
you see the next layer of files...
Simple and incredibly cool

Ghost Windows

Open up computer with the thumbnails on.now if your using media player and you maximise computer media player "flys" a layer behind your files move the camra in to use it and out ahain to view your files.This can be done with any .exe by clicking on the titlebar with the scrollwheel button.

New Applications

Media center

This is a replacement for media player 10 basicly its the media center edition of xp but its bootable.

when you select it at the boot menu it loads allmost instintly and your greeted with the dvd installers background pic.and the same colordepth\res as when you instyall xp (that screen where it asks for the cd key)
there are 5 objects

my music -intagrated music player
my video -intagrated movie player
my pictures -intagrated picture viewer
play dvd -intagrated dvd player
import -import files from a cd\dvd\memcard etc (wizard)

Functions are the same as media player 10 play dvd,wma,avi
sadly there is no tv recording mode.
In the os its a fullscreen app with ccontrols intagrated into the sidebar giving you an ipod style view of whats playing the cd pic etc its very easy to use and is built into the os ie it loads as part of the os

Internet explorer

Well its a fox killer
ive allready said before it could stop all of those search bar trogens where mozzie gets infected but now
it has layred browsing.
to explain if you have two windows open in fox you can tab through them in ie they are aranged on the Z axis in layers click your mos wheel in or click on the windows icon and the camra moves in through the web page to show the next page.
Its got a dap style download manager with pause resume multiple connections etc
its got an alarming black list of trogen links.
it has a built in cleaner to remove trogens like hijack this.
it seems to be nearly imune to trogens after 3 minuter on a rom site i usualy have xxx toolbar,cool web search etc but ive been there yesterday and the worst i got was a trogen error,os not supported!


Microsofts new search engine

google lovers beware microsofts finaly come up with a new idea.
on the bar youll see the search tile if you click on it and if you type longhorn.
you get a transperent window eith your rusults.no graphics to download just rusults and its fast realy fast
google seems to be in some serious trouble here...

Control Center
like Xteq Systems X-Setup this gives you hunderds of options in a catogry view that are not avable in the control pannel like tweaks and hacks for ie and other apps

thats all the New fetures since build 4074\4082

Wow... that's a really informative post there, x32-b. I can't wait to get my hands on Longhorn.

Any idea when it will be released?

Sounds nice... If they do a final version as a free download I might stick it on a drive somewhere for fun...

thanks its so gratifing to see a post without longhorn is gay

hers an ie7 shot
http://www.freeimagehome.com/images/x32b/annoyances.jpg
as for the resese 2006
but there are free 180 day trials online
like 4074 which was what i origanly posted about
and the susposidly removed...winfs items

http://www.freeimagehome.com/images/x32b/mycomputer.jpg

as for the free download]you get what u pay for
but free 180 day trials are online

I don't think longhorn is gay. That would be an insult to alternative lifestyles.

Maybe MS could pay me enough to run it on this box...

Maybe...

you think im payed to brag about?
no im payed to make it crash
NOT EASY
i use reshacker to make aps crash
you all know about auto restore dont you

Come on now, be fair. If they'd ship it for free, it would not be nice to charge them for that.

Now, now. Nobody's denying that you're a top beta-tester. But it would be nicer if you could post some of the more technical issues that you've encountered rather than talk about its user interface features.

Not easy to make windows crash? Wow, maybe I can get a job! I can get all sorts of windows OS's to crash. Maybe I have a talent for it. I'll have to send Bill my resume...

o my god

your not anoying
im on a linux form talking about longhorn

tech-pc.co.uk get realy pissed off aND said im a 13 yr old warez junky

what do you want to know??
--------------------------
auto restore
complies with x-32bs theorm

"if the user cannot dect a crash visualy or any other way then the theryoitical crash may be ignored and the os considered stable"

real life usage senario
"ok
were on about autorestore...

hers my discription

The "stall" is gone in a modern pc
"And one of the most important new features is what I call auto reload

Say your typing in wor...Open office
A 5-page essay you haven’t saved yet and it crashes........

In xp or any windows os
Your essay is kaput gone and you get an error message with some number and Sorry

In longhorn
The screen freezes for approx 1 sec and recovers, you get a ! Icon in the
Classic tray, which has your error message hidden away, your 5-page essay Is fine

Or in media player your music restores from where it was pre crash all youHear is a 1 sec stall

Or in any other .exe file
crash,stall,recover with settings/work. "

so since a crash is now undictible
and crashing means a iconm which can be hidden
can we then say the os is now 100% stable?
apart from hardware crashes ie stop errors "


hers a gui shot (alt tab)
http://www.pro-networks.org/longhorn/LH-4074/dwm2.jpg

It's been a long time since I lost any data from an OS crash...

That'll be using linux OS's tho...

BTW, I think It's the typing and spelling that makes you look like a 13yo junky of some sort...