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x-32b 02-15-2005 03:51 AM

Linux VS Longhorn

scuzzman 02-15-2005 03:58 AM

Re: Linux VS Longhorn

Originally posted by x-32b
how things have changed look who’s the real innovator now and linux and mac Os are still stuck with fat32.
Well, you've showed your ignorance. Truth is, neither Mac nor Linux natively use FAT32...
I don't know what Mac uses as I don't use Macs, but Linux uses (primarily)

Also - the title of this thread is flawed, as you make no mention of Linux except from this single statement which is flawed. There is no comparison being done in this thread, it is simply a poor review.

Also, WinFS is not being released with Longhorn. End of story. They're sticking with NTFS right now.

One more thing: Linux is a kernel. A K-E-R-N-E-L. A kernel cannot be compared to an entire operating system.

EDIT: spelling/grammar

frob23 02-15-2005 03:58 AM

1) WinFS is NOT coming out with Longhorn.

That was canned weeks ago. It is going to be in a future release of Windows.

2) Don't advertize windows here.

frob23 02-15-2005 04:01 AM


Good point, BSD is ffs, ufs, or ufs2... or any number of other formats (so I assume Mac uses that as well). No FAT32... didn't even notice that point in the main article... since the big error (in my eyes) was that Microsoft couldn't even get WinFS stable enough to release so it was diked out in a big press release weeks ago.

scuzzman 02-15-2005 04:06 AM

Mac uses UFS... I knew it, just didn't remember the name.

vharishankar 02-15-2005 04:22 AM

I think this should go into the Distro reviews section :p :D

frob23 02-15-2005 04:30 AM

LOL... yes it needs to be there.

Exactly as it is right now... spelling errors, factual errors, and comments... everything left exactly like it is (with the ability to add of course but not change).

scuzzman 02-15-2005 04:46 AM

Just a few more things to point out as they just entered my mind.

1) WinFS grouping seems very much like the way Mac does it, in that all programs are in an Applications folder, etc.
2) I can organize Linux very easily this way through the use of symlinks.
3) VB/VBS is very dangerous. Fully incorporating .NET into the OS was potentially the dumbest thing Microsoft has ever done.
4) Do you know what Palladium actually is?

pevelius 02-15-2005 04:52 AM

Re: Linux VS Longhorn

Originally posted by x-32b
Longhorn build 4074

No 6
And one of the most important new features is what I call auto reload

Say your typing in wor...Open office
A 5-page essay you haven’t saved yet and it crashes........

In xp or any windows os
Your essay is kaput gone and you get an error message with some number and Sorry

In longhorn
The screen freezes for approx 1 sec and recovers, you get a ! Icon in the
Classic tray, which has your error message hidden away, your 5-page essay Is fine

Or in media player your music restores from where it was pre crash all youHear is a 1 sec stall

Or in any other .exe file
crash,stall,recover with settings/work.

So does this look like xp with a new skin if you think so stop skipping
It certainly is a massive change from all other oses

so, does this mean they cannot make the os stable enought to run programs properly? or does it mean that everything you do gets logged all over your system in case someone wants to take a peek at it? maybe both.

bornhj 02-15-2005 05:04 AM

Oh, for the days when they taught spelling in schools....

I have used Longhorn 4074 as well, and it is a great step forward (at least for Microsoft), however it is continuing along the typical Microsoft line of user friendliness and pretty GUIs.

The installation for the RTM of LH will be much different from the alpha.

This whole argument just boils down to the question asked almost every day here: "Is Windows Better Than Linux?"
After using both LH and FC3 extensively, I have to say that even if LH is vastly improved by RTM, I won't buy it. It's just not worth it. Linux IS user friendly enough to compete with LH, especially FC/MDK/SuSE etc.

The thing I personally like most about LH is the new references to drives. It's no longer C:\, D:\, A:\, but rather Longhorn, DVD Drive, Floppy Drive. It certainly makes the FS easier to navigate.
The whole Documents, Games, Music etc. all relies upon WinFS, so it won't be in RTM. It's just grouping WinFS meta tags. When WinFS is off (like I have it) the links serve no use, and are easily removed in the registry (still the stupidist part of Windows).


2) Don't advertize windows here.
It's the general forum, we do what we want.

oneandoneis2 02-15-2005 05:12 AM

Hey, at least it looks like they've finally separated apps from the kernel so crashing an app doesn't mean crashing the whole OS - give them credit for THAT much, at least!

The WinFS thing sounds like how I already divide my files up: I have a Docs folder, an MP3 folder, a Games folder. . . it's a bit of a "blinding flash of the obvious", IMHO. (Isn't this also how Rox works?)

If it's well implemented, maybe it'll finally mean uninstalling software will actually remove all the files it installed. Somehow, I suspect it just means it'll be harder to look at the hard drive to see them, tho. Maybe I'm a cynic. . .

If this little list is all that's changed from XP, I'm sadly disappointed. It's pitifully similar to what they've already got, without even a few simple additions like the multiple desktops that Linux users take for granted.

scuzzman 02-15-2005 05:18 AM


Originally posted by oneandoneis2
If this little list is all that's changed from XP, I'm sadly disappointed. It's pitifully similar to what they've already got, without even a few simple additions like the multiple desktops that Linux users take for granted.
Tabbed F'in browsing!

oneandoneis2 02-15-2005 05:23 AM

True, but by the time Longhorn actually comes out, Firefox will be everywhere :)

x-32b 02-15-2005 05:24 AM

itsactuly a review for longhorn showing how completly different it is
yes i know about ex2 i use knoppix.
its ok but mac os uses fat 32

dont flame its just areview
i should have put in my history
im primalery a linux user

x-32b 02-15-2005 05:26 AM

And win fs is not canned
see my screenshots
concrete evidence of win fs
it was microspin fs isnt gone
lets leave it at that for now

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