Don't Panic!! I have have merged the threads.

well actually pretty much any operating system that is'nt windows.. kicks ass.

DOS even

This huge long thread has been very interesting (all 44 pages of it). I am new to linux and learning everything, but even at this point MS looks like shit. Even if I have learned everything i want to yet about linux i still can do more than i could have before. For anyone getting into the IT field like me Windows is nothing more than "Job security", cause everyone knows that by the time they finish reading my thread that one of their friends or families pc's running Windows will have crashed. And this post which was on page 3 and 4 (http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/mcse2.htm ) almost made me cry from laughter you must read it if you skipped that page.

im suprise there is'nt an official why windows sucks wiki.

Thanks for the link. That guy is a complete and utter imbecile.

I especially got a kick out of these statements of his.

Yeah, Windows pwnz Linux as a server. It can burn CDs right on the server!!! LOL. Last time I checked, it wasn't an issue of not being able to burn, rip, and play media on a Linux server, it was more of a matter that your average *nix admin was smart enough to know better than to do such things on their server.

Wow!!! What a breakthrough -- limit what a user can do with their PC so that they won't want one and thereby saving on unwanted tech support calls. I think he's onto something there.

Lucky him. I wish I had something as high tech as a Compaq mid-tower!!!! Then I could brag about being able to play solitaire and minesweeper too.

I guess that's some great progress on MS's part. Used to be that it was relatively less reliable about getting infected and automatically forwarding the virus to everyone in a person's address book (it has always been pretty good in that aspect, but I guess it got even better!!!!). I guess MS got smart and built-in the functionality to do it automatically. In the background no less!!!!! Wow!!! Damn you Microsoft!! Up to your usual tactics of usurping the middle man. That's kind of typical of MS though to take some third-party standard or concept (in this case viruses) and make their own proprietary version and "tightly integrate" it into the OS.

I wish I could defragment and run AOL My stupid system has such a crappy file system that it doesn't fragment. It doesn't get viruses either damnit. I feel so left out.

Anyway, his site goes on an on like that. You weren't kidding about a good laugh. I hope that he's more of the exception than the norm in the Windows administration community. If he isn't, all I can say is, "I'm so sorry to hear that"

that's obviously a parody.

if he really were doing all those things, he wouldn't be writing the column. the computer would be crawling like a snail.


seriously lacking in internet utilities, lol. aol? devry graduate? msce? hilarious.

Yeah, a part of me was wondering if it was a parody or a joke or something. It's kind of hard to believe that anyone is that oblivious. Then again, there are some people that stupid in this world.

One thing I was wondering if maybe some of Jorge Lopez's buddies were playing a prank on him by making a bogus article and giving him credit as the author.

Anyway, it was a funny read. It had me cracking up. It was a good addition to this thread.

What about this site?

http://www.microsuck.com/

It's not technically a wiki, but it sort of serves the same purpose in a way.

Linux does not come with defrag tools becaus it doesn't need them. by using journaling file-systems, there is no file fragmentation (or its so little that its insignificant).
Windows native filesystems are very out of date and aside from fragmentation they perform poorly when compared to *nix journaling filesystems.

Not exactly. Ext2 doesn't have journal. It does not have fragmentation problem, either. Filesystems used in Linux have a different architecture than FAT. The difference is (among other things) that the allocated in such a way that there's space to add more content without fragmentation (simplifying things).

But isn't ext3 essentially ext2 with journaling? AFAIK, they use the same sets of tools/utils (tune2fs, and e2fsck), and you can definitely mount an ext3 filesystem as ext2. However, when doing so, journaling will be temporarily disabled until it mounted as ext3.

I guess there is a util out there to defragment ext2 filesystems (don't know it's name since I've never bothered with it. I just remember seeing references to it from all sorts of different docs floating around the internet), but it seems pretty superfluous to use such a util with ext2 and ext3 (why I don't bother.) However, there seems to be some debate from different people about whether it's really ever useful to use such a util. I look at it this way -- Majority of Linux admins and users don't use such a util, and it hasn't proved to be any sort of disadvantage for them not to (In other words, I don't know anybody that feels like they're missing out on something). So if it ain't broke...

I wonder if using a defrag util with Linux is kind of rice.

@ Mara, thanks for that info, i thought that ext2 did fragment. now i know better.

Unix is better. If you only look at the programming membrane and compare it to windows. uhhh... best unix of all? look at my sig. made me miss errors and difficulties so much I had to build a new computer to stop my brain rotting. nothinng beats good old problem solving!

I was just wondering, in all your personal opinions, makes the Linux platform better? It looks really interesting and I always hear people mentioning it so I registered to learn. Is it costly? I hear since viruses aren't designed for it it is safer?

this probably isnt the answer your looking for, but:
check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux for a definition and read any links therein that are of interest, please!

also search here at lq.org or google.com (or google.com/linux) for reasons why people like it, why its 'better', etc.

and welcome!