The All New Linux vs Windows MegaSuperThread

dalek · 09-25-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MrCode

Pardon me if this seems picky, but this doesn't logically make sense...if Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, how can it be "more popular than Linux itself"? Unless you mean in the sense that the kind of user Ubuntu generally attracts is more interested in, well, Ubuntu (i.e. the fact that it's newbie-friendly) than in the underlying system.

It is #1 on distrowatch, whatever that means. That doesn't really prove much to me tho.

lupusarcanus · 09-25-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MrCode

Pardon me if this seems picky, but this doesn't logically make sense...if Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, how can it be "more popular than Linux itself"? Unless you mean in the sense that the kind of user Ubuntu generally attracts is more interested in, well, Ubuntu (i.e. the fact that it's newbie-friendly) than in the underlying system.

EDIT: Or, you could bring up the old "Linux" vs. "GNU/Linux" naming semantics argument (the fact that technically "Linux" is just the kernel, while "GNU/Linux" includes the GNU userland)...but I see no reason to. "Linux" rolls off the tongue easier if you ask me.

If this same logic applies to California, then boy is the USA is big trouble.

dalek · 09-25-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by leopard

If this same logic applies to California, then boy is the USA is big trouble.

It's not as bad as CA but the rest of it is getting there. Quickly.

Kenny_Strawn · 09-25-2010, 07:26 PM

I mean more well-known than Linux itself. To explain this: More people know about the term "Ubuntu" than they do "Linux"! This is all I meant: yes, I do know that Ubuntu is really a Linux derivative work, but most people who use Ubuntu don't know that. They just know about Ubuntu. Makes sense now?

dalek · 09-25-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn

I mean more well-known than Linux itself. To explain this: More people know about the term "Ubuntu" than they do "Linux"! This is all I meant: yes, I do know that Ubuntu is really a Linux derivative work, but most people who use Ubuntu don't know that. They just know about Ubuntu. Makes sense now?

Not much. I knew what Linux was long before I ever even heard of Ubuntu. I been using Linux for years. Only recently heard of Ubuntu.

lupusarcanus · 09-25-2010, 07:55 PM

I disagree as well.
I found Linux first, the found out Ubuntu was the most popular version.
AFAIK Ubuntu's GUI's make it pretty clear that it's not Ubuntu, it's Ubuntu Linux.

Kenny_Strawn · 09-25-2010, 08:04 PM

Yeah, very true, but just look in the Syndicated News forum and you'll see that, yes, Linux has been around longer than Ubuntu but Ubuntu is the only distro (with the exception of Android) to outpace Linux itself in the amount of fans it's getting.

And yes, this is only recent news.

Kenny_Strawn · 09-25-2010, 08:08 PM

And here's the proof from the Syndicated News forum:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...itself-825168/

Here's the full article:

http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/08/u...ux-distro.html

schneidz · 09-25-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MrCode

Pardon me if this seems picky, but this doesn't logically make sense...if Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, how can it be "more popular than Linux itself"? ...

i think it is the same analogy as people in france mite not know what the nfl is but they probably heard of the dallas cowboys (or people in the us dont know what the european soccer league is but we know of manchester united).

schneidz · 09-25-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by leopard

I disagree as well.
I found Linux first, the found out Ubuntu was the most popular version.
AFAIK Ubuntu's GUI's make it pretty clear that it's not Ubuntu, it's Ubuntu Linux.

when i started using linux i think red-hat was the most popular distro.
according to wikipedia

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Ubuntu's first release was on October 20, 2004

dalek · 09-25-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by schneidz

when i started using linux i think red-hat was the most popular distro.
according to wikipedia

I agree that Redhat is really popular. When I switched to Gentoo, Ubuntu was just then putting its diapers on. lol I switched to Gentoo from Mandrake 9.1 or something like that. It's been a while.

dv502 · 09-25-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dakoder

it is just a matter of time before linux is a house hold name and advertised on the tv with everything else....

graham

With micro$oft in the picture...HAA!

Micro$oft has a reputation of doing anything to distract or debunk any OS that is of any competition to them.

Like I said earlier, I just want linux to have a decent market share so hardware vendors can support linux as well.

BTW, welcome to LQ...

MrCode · 09-25-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by schneidz

i think it is the same analogy as people in france mite not know what the nfl is but they probably heard of the dallas cowboys (or people in the us dont know what the european soccer league is but we know of manchester united).

This is about what I figured, but I just wanted to make sure Kenny knew what he was saying.

Kenny_Strawn · 09-25-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dv502

With micro$oft in the picture...HAA!

Micro$oft has a reputation of doing anything to distract or debunk any OS that is of any competition to them.

Like I said earlier, I just want linux to have a decent market share so hardware vendors can support linux as well.

BTW, welcome to LQ...

App£e does that, plus ensures that, once you buy their products, you have to use their software, their portable devices, their everything.

And M$ sure doesn't interfere with App£e!

dv502 · 09-25-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn

App£e does that, plus ensures that, once you buy their products, you have to use their software, their portable devices, their everything.

And M$ sure doesn't interfere with App£e!

That's because M$ owns a portion of apple. And when apple benefits, so does M$.