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Untrue. Windows has, since NT, always been POSIX compliant. Vista is out of the box POSIX compliant.
Well, here is a quote from Wikipedia:
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Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_nt
Broad software compatibility was achieved with support for several API "personalities", including the primary Win32 API and limited support for POSIX and OS/2 APIs
(emphasis added).
So I stand corrected, I should have said it lacks full POSIX compliance.
So I stand corrected, I should have said it lacks full POSIX compliance.
Here's a quote from wikipedia from the POSIX acrticle->:
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Fully POSIX-compliant
The following operating systems are POSIX compatible. They fully conform to the standard.
[list of some other OS's]
Windows NT (except optional POSIX features)[9]
Windows versions including the Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications
Windows Server 2003 R2
Windows Vista Enterprise and Ultimate
So I stand corrected EDIT2: Ok maybe not fully my bad.
Tell me, do you or you do not have to edit your xorg to enable 3buttons/wheel support in Slackware 12.0.
I'm using Slackware 12.
Honestly, I don't remember ever changing something mouse-related in xorg.conf. But the mouse is working nicely without problems.
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what is it so special about Slackware anyway?
My reasons for using Slackware (works for me, might not work for someone else):
1) I've started using slackare because I needed a good system to learn linux, and "user-frendly" distros doesn't fit for that purpose. I suppose that some user can install something "user-friendly" quite easily, but after that he will have great difficulties learning something about config files and "how the system works". In my opinion, it is possible to keep RedHat (for example) installed for several years and not to get to know anything about it (how it works). After fresh installation slackware throws user right into config files, and gives bunch of good pointers - root user recieves a good mail that, among other things, gives location of FAQ's and HOWTO's. Config files are nicely commented, so it is relatively easy to understand what this config does, and how should it be modified. It is really good system if you want to learn linux. I suppose if user wants just to install and use the system - slackware will be a bad choice.
2) I don't like GUI interfaces. To my opinion, in 50% of cases writing GUI interface is a waste of time - to locate checkbox/button your need, sometimes you'll have to dig through a huge heap of documentation, while in text config file you can use text/regexp search, so you won't have to read that much to change program settings. Besides, GUI is often slow, cumbersome, takes a lot of screen space, makes program bigger, etc.
3) I don't like when OS assumes that it is smarter than it's user. This is the way windows works, and this is the way some distros tries to follow. My machine must not interfere in what I'm doing right now, and it must not do anything that I didn't request explicitly. Of course, this behaviour is incompatible with "user-friendly" "system for a newbie", since such box will assume that user doesn't really know what he is doing, and will request too many confirmations. Maybe I'm wrong, but I suppose that every "user-friendly" OS that installs easily, contains a lot of preconfigured settings, and tries to look and behave too nicely is incompatible with me.
4) It contains source code for everything on its DVD. If I want to fix something in source code, everything I need is already on installation DVD, even if Internet access is broken. I've never seen source code on disks for other distribution (Of course, maybe I wasn't lucky enough). Linux is about OpenSource, so I'd like to get source code on same dvd where installer is placed.
5) I just like it. I don't know why, but after installation I've got the feeling it is what I've been looking for - a good system for programmer.
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As mentioned above, I've been using the same X configuration file for the past couple of Slackware releases now.
+1 here. I was really surprised when I've upgraded from Slackware 11 to 12 - I've preserved several config files and the /home directory, wiped out everything else and installed fresh system. After that it worked like nothing happened! It was really amazing (it was first time) in comparsion to standart windows reinstallation, where you'll have to spend several days installing standard windows software you'll need and tuning your personal settings.
I just thought of something else Windows does badly:
Canceling print jobs.
Under Linux, all you do is run 'lpq' to find out the number of the job you want to cancel and then a quick 'lprm job #' cancels the job. Done deal. No waiting 25 to 30 seconds, minutes or hours.
By comparison, Windows throws a temper tantrum every time you try to do this. It doesn't matter what brand of printer you have. Rebooting doesn't even fix it!
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Originally Posted by ErV
I don't like when OS assumes that it is smarter than it's user.
Same here ErV. Slackware stays right out of your way, and that is one of its best features.
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Originally Posted by ErV
I don't know why, but after installation I've goot the feeling it is what I've been looking for - a good system for programmer.
So I stand corrected, I should have said [windows] lacks full POSIX compliance.
i got a cd in college from my boss (engineering computer lab). said microsoft came and did a presentation and gave out cd's of 'unix services for windows'. i thought it was like wine so when i put it into my redhat, it didnt budge. i've never tried it on windows but i guess it is more of a cygwin replacement.
1. I'm dumping my Vfat/ntfs partitions @home
2. I'm gona buy a decent gaming console (xbox390 or SPS 3)
3. I'm gonna stop buying HW for shallow excuieses of an OS :-)
4. I'm gonna paly my self sick with gamming consoles :-p
And since I'm on slackware, I'm stopped blaming software for PC failures, I konw who's bad now
just read my sig =D
1. I'm dumping my Vfat/ntfs partitions @home
2. I'm gona buy a decent gaming console (xbox390 or SPS 3)
3. I'm gonna stop buying HW for shallow excuieses of an OS :-)
4. I'm gonna paly my self sick with gamming consoles :-p
Smart decision The reason for upgrading a PC is 9/10 times because of games. The price of a good graphics card alone is equal to the price of a console. The price for the rest of the hardware is mostly equal to the price of the amount of new games you were going to buy that is able to run on that upgraded PC anyway. The (serious) gaming lifecycle of a console like the Playstation is almost twice as long as a gaming lifecycle of a PC. By the time you needed to upgrade your pc, again, you would to pay a new graphics card + the rest of the hardware. Since you still have your Playstation 3 by that time you don't have to reinvest in new hardware but can buy even more games with the money you would have spend on a new PC.
Without games there is no need to upgrade your PC every three years anyway if you are using Linux/BSD.
Originally Posted by VINCENT
Smart decision The reason for upgrading a PC is 9/10 times because of games. The price of a good graphics card alone is equal to the price of a console. The price for the rest of the hardware is mostly equal to the price of the amount of new games you were going to buy that is able to run on that upgraded PC anyway. The (serious) gaming lifecycle of a console like the Playstation is almost twice as long as a gaming lifecycle of a PC. By the time you needed to upgrade your pc, again, you would to pay a new graphics card + the rest of the hardware. Since you still have your Playstation 3 by that time you don't have to reinvest in new hardware but can buy even more games with the money you would have spend on a new PC.
I don't play anymore PC games. Actually, I don't play any games anymore. I think they are all crap. I used to play console games, but meh, even those these days are just graphics, no real content. It doesn't compare to the days of NES/SNES, and early days of PSOne. I haven't played any games on my pc in years, and I have had my pc for YEARS, SINCE 1999, AND IT IS STILL KICKING! It runs Slackware beautifully!
If it weren't for Linux, I would also be upgrading my computer or buying a new one every 3 years or so. I refuse to do that! My old hardware has yet to fail me, and why do I need such a top of the line computer for normal use, and web browsing (though web browsing is painful sometimes, stupid flash sites, and flash content!)
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I'll second that. I use a P3 1ghz, a lot of folks seem to think it's old and too slow to take seriously but my only issue with it is hard drive access is slow if it runs out of ram (laptop, but enough room for 2 HD's so will have a go at raid when 250gb sata drives drop below 100 euro ).
I have a P2 here too, I kind of like KDE's integration so I'm shooting myself in the foot there but it's not slow enough to be irritating. The only thing that does get annoying is websites so loaded up with flash and other crap that they would be unusable over a modem.
cheers
I used to play console games, but meh, even those these days are just graphics, no real content. It doesn't compare to the days of NES/SNES, and early days of PSOne.
Half-Life 2 (+episodes), Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3, Doom 3, Quake 4, Unreal tournament 3, Metroid Prime series, Mario Kart, Gran Turismo series, F-Zero series, Final fantasy series, WarSow, Protal... But I agree the days of the PSX were awesome, same goes for the days 'till the Pentium 4 came out for PC gaming. There are really good games out there if you know where to find them
What I really miss are quality games like Quake 2, Crash Bandicoot, Tony Hawks Pro Skating 1 and 2, Tomb Raider, Carmageddon, Oni...
Carmageddon was freaking awesome! I love Doom. I played quake, the first one and to me it seemed 'incomplete'. Though Quake later evolved into more of a multiplayer game, unlike Doom which was more plot based. I dunno, it sucks being so jaded about something I really liked! I would like to get into gaming again, but I'm glad I lost interest in some way. I prefer learning more about computers and different OSs things like that, rather than playing a game, and wasting time.
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Originally Posted by SCerovec
That's it, im thru with Windows finally:
1. I'm dumping my Vfat/ntfs partitions @home
2. I'm gona buy a decent gaming console (xbox390 or SPS 3)
3. I'm gonna stop buying HW for shallow excuieses of an OS :-)
4. I'm gonna paly my self sick with gamming consoles :-p
And since I'm on slackware, I'm stopped blaming software for PC failures, I konw who's bad now
just read my sig =D
Yes- It may be cheaper and durable as the cycle is longer BUT once you completed a game,from Easy level(Beginner,Novice etc whatever the gaming terms) to Expert level (High, Final etc whatever gaming terms), what you can do? Buy another game set. (You can play again but I THINK it is too boring already.)
Futhermore, a set of game is not that cheap. Highest quality XBOX game cost nearly $100 Singapore Dollars that equals to about $90 or so USD. (Or there is cheaper once, like $60 USD or even $40 USD but that depends on what game you bought.)
On windows game, you got the choice. There is even free client games! (Paid/Subscriber get more but that depends on a person's will.)
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Originally Posted by Jeebizz
I don't play anymore PC games. Actually, I don't play any games anymore. I think they are all crap. I used to play console games, but meh, even those these days are just graphics, no real content. It doesn't compare to the days of NES/SNES, and early days of PSOne. I haven't played any games on my pc in years, and I have had my pc for YEARS, SINCE 1999, AND IT IS STILL KICKING! It runs Slackware beautifully!
If it weren't for Linux, I would also be upgrading my computer or buying a new one every 3 years or so. I refuse to do that! My old hardware has yet to fail me, and why do I need such a top of the line computer for normal use, and web browsing (though web browsing is painful sometimes, stupid flash sites, and flash content!)
As for you, this is stupid comment in some sense. P2 is already out-dated and I dont think it is safe to use in the sense. (There IS hardware hacking, but luckily for you, I don't know how to hack or else....)
Without flash,shockwave etc, life will be dull! No Youtube, No Games and no Video (Music) Content.
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