And before anyone accuses me trolling again for having the audacity to question rules created by those much wiser than me. Who do you think has the authorty to make up language rules? The guys who write the dictionary? People who have studied languages their whole lives? Nope. Shrinks do.

To quote the APA manual: "Some style rules, such as some of the rule for numbers, are indeed arbitrary. Such style rules exist simply because consistency is preferable."

I say freedom is preferable. I say originality is preferable. I say uniqueness is preferable. If that upsets authoritarians, good!

And how are you going to be unique if not against a background of rules? Even texting and leetspeek are governed by rules. If they were not, they would be unintelligible.
Absolute freedom is nonsense, by the way. It's the whole seventeenth century liberal mirage of the autonomous subject. This planet is so small you can get more freedom for yourself only by repressing that of others. In the end, all that should matters is that you get to choose the rules that you prefer.

I suppose it would be linguists and I wouldn't call it making up rules - it's more describing some consistent language behaviour over some period of time which would form some rules. Then it becomes the standard for speakers to follow until after some time for various reasons (jay73 provided some examples) people start using some language item differently. Then if there are valid reasons for changing this rule, it gets changed. But it's not like with esperanto or programming languages: linguists don't come up with some rules out of the blue, they try to find patterns in the way people use a language. It might be that they focus on a particular social stratum, and then try to impose it on the rest, but that's another story

Spot on, when it comes to art, music, poetry etc. Imagine when everyone puts originality on the first place when it comes to everyday language. The most important function of language is communication and without some consistency and rules after some time we would be struggling to understand what someone else is saying. It's nothing to do with authorities (at least it shouldn't) it is just make our life easier. Think of programming languages: imagine them without rules or consistency. Imagine music: you might be a very talented musician, but first you HAD to learn the existing rules (scales, modes, etc) to build your uniqueness on top of it.
It doesn't matter if we are unable to effectively communicate among one another - the most important thing is that we've upset the authoritarians That's the spirit, LOL

Yes, the function of language is communication. Texting evolved because it's a more efficient form. And those who complain about it do so merely because they demand obedience to arbitrary rules.

Seems to me, if you're truly searching for knowledge (rather than blabbering aimlessly), then you should be more concerned with substance than style. But I have to admit that, in the real world, people will readily accept eloquent boolshiat over the insolent truth.

If it makes you feel better about the natural and Darwinian order that emerges out of the chaos that governs the universe, I suppose you could invent a god who makes up rules too. Heck, then you could be just like him, made in his image even. And god-like people are destined to rule the unbelievers!

NOTE to mods: I've probably violated three rules in one post for talking about politics, religion and engaging in a personal attack. Just wanted to make sure everyone realized it was deliberate instead of accidental. LOL

Could you stop blabbering aimlessly and address the points about the need for some rules that I mentioned in the previous post? Besides, I fail to see where I mentioned texts.

You completely missed my point.Talking about religion or politics is not a violation of the forum rules. Personal attacks usually indicate that a person does not have valid arguments to engage in a discussion.

The whole substance argument is meaningless. If you say something, someone has to be able to understand it. Without understanding, there is no substance. And that is why language has rules. Unless you understand the rules and can break them in a meaningful way and replace them with something better, you're just uttering gibberish.

Shakespeares english is like the Queens english, but spoken in a broad black country accent, because Shakey was a brummy.

English spoken with regional accents is real English.

Given adequate motivation, of which gaining knowledge is sufficient for most people, you can even understand someone speaking a language you've never heard before. The problem the way I see it is authoritarians just won't accept information that isn't presented in the style/format they demand. And as far as I'm concerned, if the rules made sense you could convince people of their merit and they'd be de-facto; you wouldn't have to set them in stone and enforce them in a Draconian manner.

I dont get the difference between advised and adviced.
Anyone care to explain !

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Advise is a verb, advice is a noun; thus, you advise someone to do something, but you give them advice on what to do.

Incidentally, since advice is a noun, it's not possible to have "adviced" someone, what you'd want there is advised.

I use the difference between advice and advise to remember the difference between pratice and pratise. The same rules apply, the first is a noun, the second a verb.

IF I have the time I spent my vacations in Devon.
That happens mostly 2 times every year
Every time a have a conversation with the local people, they said to me that I come from the North.
I always said yes that is true.
And they start asking how it is living in Scotland
Yeah I come from the north but from the northern part of the Netherlands

So what is real English

I meant any regional accents from anywhere in the UK, as opposed to the artificial, unaccented, "refined", English.

Question:
Hi, little question for Shakespeare, what might be better ?

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Thank you!

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Danone is a food company. Actually not bad products.

I'd go for:

it has been carried out at Danone factory in Paris?

it has been carried out at X University in Paris?