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Old 05-19-2020, 08:28 AM   #631
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This will be interesting to watch if this ever comes to pass. I would say that the anti vaxers aren't going to comply. I can see the militia's roaming the streets, preventing the police from coming through.
https://www.wnd.com/2020/05/alan-der...ge-needle-arm/

What strange times we live in, in more ways than one. The term "perfect storm" comes to mind.
https://www.wnd.com/2020/05/will-ame...-2nd-lockdown/

This is what I am referring to. This is what I see possibly resurging if the government actually gets that heavy handed.

American Patriot. (The 1100k stream is about 500MB.)
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Old 05-19-2020, 07:37 PM   #632
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Sorry Teckk but I think the idea of any sustained forceful vigilante effect is utterly fanciful. A Class Action Suit and a Constitutionality test would be both more effective and less risky. The State would have to provide conclusive proof of several points such as the value of the vaccination, the safety of the vaccination and very likely that each and every potential person is provably vulnerable to whatever is being vaccinated against, not to mention the severity of the "outbreak".
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:38 PM   #633
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As to variations.

https://www.wrdw.com/content/news/I-...570255221.html

"Dr. Vazquez says the difference is ever-so-slight, but he believes it could be partly responsible for the East Coast struggling a bit more. "

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0409085644.htm

"The 'C' variant is the major European type, found in early patients from France, Italy, Sweden and England. It is absent from the study's Chinese mainland sample, but seen in Singapore, Hong Kong and South Korea."
Very convenient that.

The virus isn't deadly to the vast majority of people. Why waste time at the first stages trying to protect those who don't need it yet?? If there is a solution give to those that have some chance to live a while.

Ann Glenn wife of late Astronaut John Glenn dies from Covid complications in a nursing home. She was 100 years old. Should she have been on the first list to get any sort of cure? Doctors have to play God almost every day. It's rather common to let a very weak very old person go in a way that is less painful.

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Old 05-20-2020, 04:25 AM   #634
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Ann Glenn wife of late Astronaut John Glenn dies from Covid complications in a nursing home. She was 100 years old. Should she have been on the first list to get any sort of cure? Doctors have to play God almost every day. It's rather common to let a very weak very old person go in a way that is less painful.
At last some common sense! I will be 75 this summer so you might expect me to be on the side of the oldies, but the truth is I would much rather be dead than demented. And most of the people in care homes do in fact have dementia; that's why their relatives were forced to put them there. When I was growing up, doctors called pneumonia "the old man's friend" and no one would have dreamed of putting an old person in that condition on a life support system.

I feel increasingly uneasy about the way in which the economic future of a whole generation of young people is being sacrificed to keep old people like me alive. Don't get me wrong! I enjoy my life, and I'm certainly not demented yet. I completed my first successful cairo drawing program yesterday. But I don't honestly think I'm worth that much.
 
Old 05-20-2020, 06:44 AM   #635
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The virus isn't deadly to the vast majority of people. Why waste time at the first stages trying to protect those who don't need it yet??
If you mean, why force younger people to isolate even though it isn't that deadly to them, I think the main rationale was that if you just let it spread the hospital system could get overwhelmed leading to a higher death rate, even for younger people.

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I will be 75 this summer[...]
I feel increasingly uneasy about the way in which the economic future of a whole generation of young people is being sacrificed to keep old people like me alive. Don't get me wrong! I enjoy my life, and I'm certainly not demented yet. I completed my first successful cairo drawing program yesterday. But I don't honestly think I'm worth that much.
Hmm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_of_life says Australia the value of life at $182,000 per year (didn't see a number for UK, but I guess any western country should be roughly equivalent. Unfortunately, I can't tell if they mean Australian dollars or US dollars).

If I read https://www.lifetable.de/data/GBR/GB...0162018CU1.pdf correctly, a 75 year old British woman is expected to live another 13 years on average, which puts your life at about $2,365,000. So if someone asks how you're feeling you should answer "I feel like two million bucks!"
 
Old 05-20-2020, 07:25 AM   #636
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Inside Italy's covid war
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Influenza 1918
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