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Scientifically, there is not "races of man", there is only one human race. Differences in skin tone, eye color, or hair color are trivial variations on one race.
Neither science nor nature weigh the differences that we call race, humans create these artificial distinctions. I wonder why?
Science is also made up by humans, with limited understanding of the world.
Anyway, the advantages of being a 'racist' outweigh the drawbacks. Usually. It being 'an evil concept' is just a social construct. Like it being bad to cross the street when the lights are not green.
If some 'human subrace' can live on its own just fine, then they can be racist all they want without any ill effect. Again, the Sentinelese near India who are basically stuck in the ancient tech time are just fine being hyperracist xenophobe bigots. It would be somewhat trivial, of course, to fight them and win, but only racists would do this.
So, I doubt anyone from the 'left' who is 'anti racism' and co, will ever want these hyperradical xenophobes to change, talking to them gets you speared and arrowed, and fighting them is aggressive, and racists like me approve of their lifestyle anyway.
The hypervigilant ultrahardcore superlative magnum opus googolplex racism of the Sentinelese allowed them to be, and remain who they are. So far.
I hope they become five thousand times more racist, too.
They don't bother anyone else, though. That's probably more important than that.
Teckk _ Sorry brother but you missed the specifics. Let me state it again because it is absolutely and provably true. There is no genetic marker in humans for race I did not say that it is impossible to reach a conclusion by others through any number of "tells" (nor did I say anything at all about gender about which there are genetic markers) but there are none in DNA for race. Look it up. It's true.
...and for cryin' out loud what is your point about specific superior traits? Anybody who imagines we are all exactly the same has neither eyes, ears or a brain that actually processes information. It is not possible to just shove me into some inane SJW slot, OK? I don't fit.
FWIW the US Constitution does not sat simply that "all men are created equal" and it certainly isn't what was meant because at the very least, to them, "men" was landowners, people with a vested interest in administration and collaboration. It adds "under the Law" and that is a very important point and one that is somewhat like Truth and Honesty, extremely high ideals difficult to practice 100% in reality. That doesn't mean "All men are equal under the Law", just like Truth and Honesty, aren't Holy Graiul concepts worthy of pursuit and devotion. They intrinsically are.
Geist - We are largely on the same page, but you too seem to miss some important specifics that lead to seeing a disagreement that actually doesn't exist. Of course the Irishman runs first in most cases. However if the Irishman spent a few years in tropical areas and the Aborigine lived for years say in Finland, that aborigine will likely run first. Humans adapt to their environments and while that degree increases generationally, it also begins in a very short time AND has little to do with ancestry and more with experience. That Planet Earth has a wide variety of conditions insures there will continue to be diversity no matter how much we "interbreed". My point about intermingling follows Evolution, in that growth and change are not like the commonly used "Tree", but way more like vines that spread out only to recombine and spread again repeatedly.
There will always be diversity because the world is big and experience has variety and subtle mutations will always occur. Recombining only improves the odds that how one segment adapts will get spread among as many others as possible, much like "herd immunity" and not trusting all your eggs to one basket.
orbea that demonstrates exactly what the article I posted does. Neither states that there are no genetic differences. There obviously are. It is estimated that all Homo Sapiens are just 99.5% genetically alike, but we are also 98.8% in common with Chimpanzees, about 50% in common with many species of Trees, and about 30% in common with Yeast. Obviously a few percent can make for considerable difference. There just is NO MARKER for Race. What each article describes are genetic variations in cultures, diets, geographical environment and gene pool which can describe population segments but that is NOT Race! Please do consider an earlier point that there is more genetic differences between the various tribes in Africa than there are between any one tribe and Europeans AND even that is not "race related".
You posted an opinion piece with strongly lacking any actual data. To be clear I posted that article because I found it after reading your claim made me curious enough to do some light reading on the subject. I figured it was informative, on-topic and interesting enough to share. However your response makes me fear you didn't actually understand and absorb its contents so I'm not sure what to say.
When we add to that, the President's tweet response says "protesters should be shot", how long will it be before anyone can be mistreated like this?.
He didn't' say protesters he said looters, but I think you knew that. You obviously like to misrepresent the facts in a way that suits your narrative, as I've seen you do in the past. Such as when you said young people were just as much at risk from dying as older people, from COVID-19 (which is false). I thought at one point you were a man of data... I do however agree that it's about culture not race (in reguards to teckk's controversial post).
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There is no genetic marker in humans for race I did not say that it is impossible to reach a conclusion by others through any number of "tells" but there are none in DNA for race.
Are you seriously expecting to find a "race gene", neatly marked and labeled?
I'm not surprised that there is none. That's LEGO science.
In any case it was never the point of the discussion when you brought that argument up.
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orbea that demonstrates exactly what the article I posted does. Neither states that there are no genetic differences. There obviously are.
There, you said it, and are effectively contradicting yourself.
In any case, I'm slightly disgusted by how we are discussing genetics now.
And it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
You obviously like to misrepresent the facts in a way that suits your narrative, as I've seen you do in the past. Such as when you said young people were just as much at risk from dying as older people, from COVID-19 (which is false).
He didn't' say protesters he said looters, but I think you knew that. You obviously like to misrepresent the facts in a way that suits your narrative, as I've seen you do in the past. Such as when you said young people were just as much at risk from dying as older people, from COVID-19 (which is false). I thought at one point you were a man of data... I do however agree that it's about culture not race (in reguards to teckk's controversial post).
LOL just because a person is a "man of data" does not mean he, I in this case, can't be wrong and I am also man enough to admit it. We were grossly misled, even lied to it appears, on numerous details of Covid19. I reported some of those as true because I trusted the source, the CDC and Virginia Health Department. Apparently they were not deserving of trust and I know to be more careful in the future in situations where officials panic and worry most about their own liability and public perception of their worthiness to lead. I don't conclude that all of this misinformation was some big conspiracy. I think much of it was just incompetence.
Oh and regarding the Trump tweet, I did make a bad choice of wording, but in that case I don't see much difference since last I checked robbery is not a capital offense.
To clarify a specific, I never said that young people as a general truth were as much at risk as older people. I noted that was what being reported in the state of Virginia, and it was.
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