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Old 06-19-2006, 06:51 PM   #1
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Unhappy Can't Install Repos In Yast 10.1


I had no trouble installing repos in 10.0 but in 10.1 I can't get it right. I WAS able to install repos in Apt and Smart though. When I try from the command line I get [for example]:

# installation_sources -a http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/
-bash: installation_sources: command not found

For the same URL in YaST gui I select http and enter:

Server Name: http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/
Directory on server: download/KDE:/KDE3/

And I get 'Unable to create installation source'

What am I doing wrong??? What I think I want to do is use one of these 2 mirrors:

ftp://mirror.colorado.edu/pub/suse
ftp://mirror.storagetek.com/pub/systems/suse/

but can't figure out what YaST wants me to enter for each repo or why 'installation_sources -a' doesn't work.
 
Old 06-20-2006, 12:37 PM   #2
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repositories in Yast

Hi!
I think it should be:
Server Name: software.opensuse.org
Directory on server: download/KDE:/KDE3

That's the way I entered my repositories.
 
Old 06-20-2006, 04:16 PM   #3
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Hi!
I think it should be:
Server Name: software.opensuse.org
Directory on server: download/KDE:/KDE3

That's the way I entered my repositories.
I copied and pasted as you said and it did not work. I still got the 'Unable to create installation source' message. Also does the 'installation_sources -a' command no longer work in Suse 10.1?
 
Old 06-20-2006, 04:37 PM   #4
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Take a look at post 6 in this thread.
 
Old 06-20-2006, 04:38 PM   #5
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http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1978893,00.asp

http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2847107085.html

Maybe the info in these releases has something to do with the problems I'm having???
 
Old 06-20-2006, 05:45 PM   #6
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Take a look at post 6 in this thread.
Ok I checked it out and tried this in Yast gui Add>ftp:

suse.com
pub/suse/i386/supplementary

And I get this error:

Unable to create installation source
From URL 'ftp://suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary'

I'm sure this is how the Novell link

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11504.html

is telling me how to do it and how I did it in Suse 10.0???

Then I tried you suggestions:

protocol: http
server name: software.opensuse.org
directory on server: download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1

protocol: http
server name: ftp.suse.com
directory on server: pub/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_10.1/yast-source

The KDE one worked and the Gnome one didn't.
 
Old 06-20-2006, 05:56 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Red Knuckles
Ok I checked it out and tried this in Yast gui Add>ftp:

suse.com
pub/suse/i386/supplementary

And I get this error:

Unable to create installation source
From URL 'ftp://suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary'

I'm sure this is how the Novell link

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11504.html

is telling me how to do it and how I did it in Suse 10.0???

Then I tried you suggestions:

protocol: http
server name: software.opensuse.org
directory on server: download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1

protocol: http
server name: ftp.suse.com
directory on server: pub/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_10.1/yast-source

The KDE one worked and the Gnome one didn't.
For what it's worth anything my Yast does involving Software Management or Installation Sources is VERY slow. It's definitely constipated compared to Suse 10.0. Also, I currently have just 2 repos in Yast:

http
software.opensuse.org
download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1

http
suse.cs.utah.edu
suse/update/10.1/

Hmmm. Http??? I also have voip phone router???
 
Old 06-20-2006, 06:15 PM   #8
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You need to tell it which Distro to go to

download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1/

Is the correct way, you will see the .repo file within there..
 
Old 06-20-2006, 07:48 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by EclipseAgent
You need to tell it which Distro to go to

download/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1/

Is the correct way, you will see the .repo file within there..
Um, see my most recent post. I've tried several times since to add repos with http url's such as:

http
software.opensuse.org
download/KDE:/Backports/

http
ftp.ale.org
pub/mirrors/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/

And each time [much more than 2 those are examples to see if I'm entering data correctly] I get the 'Cannot create the installation source' error???

I shut down and restarted Yast and went to 'Installation Sources' and immediately got this error on the previously successfully installed repo:

ERROR
There were errors when restoring the source configuration.
Not all sources are available for configuration.

http://software.opensuse.org/downloa...x_10.1/:Cannot create the installation source.

And it removed that repo without my prompt??? I merely clicked OK on the error message???

Right now I'm thankful for Smart and APT.

Last edited by Red Knuckles; 06-20-2006 at 07:50 PM.
 
Old 06-21-2006, 03:29 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Knuckles
Um, see my most recent post. I've tried several times since to add repos with http url's such as:

http
software.opensuse.org
download/KDE:/Backports/

http
ftp.ale.org
pub/mirrors/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/

And each time [much more than 2 those are examples to see if I'm entering data correctly] I get the 'Cannot create the installation source' error???

I shut down and restarted Yast and went to 'Installation Sources' and immediately got this error on the previously successfully installed repo:

ERROR
There were errors when restoring the source configuration.
Not all sources are available for configuration.

http://software.opensuse.org/downloa...x_10.1/:Cannot create the installation source.

And it removed that repo without my prompt??? I merely clicked OK on the error message???

Right now I'm thankful for Smart and APT.
Hi Red Knuckles!
These are my repositories in Yast:
http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...ss-inst-source
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linux/suse.com/suse/update/10.1
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.1
http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/10.1

I used "Add HTTP:" and then:
server name: download.opensuse.org
directory on server: distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source

It took some time to update the "database", but it's working. It was much faster in Suse 10.0.
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Old 06-21-2006, 11:46 AM   #11
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I get the impression across various threads that some people aren't paying attention to what is being said about this.

Quote:
software.opensuse.org
download/KDE:/Backports/
That one (the KDE source generally) is the problem, and it happens to be what you need to upgrade any of the KDE libraries through YAST. There's no yast sources in the directory. When I first added this, it went in with an error but then allowed me to use it. The next day, I started getting the error everyone else is reporting this has, using a source that had worked fine the day before. Trying to re-add it did not work, neither with the GUI nor the CLI. Cannot find sources ... It's the same error one used to get when trying to add a directory as a repo that didn't have the yast sources file in it.

FWIW, I have no solution. I've e-mailed, tried things, read forums, etc. for days on end. This problem started with the restructure of this and a few other products' distrubution and build schemes. Most suggested solutions seem to be based on the mistaken belief I or others don't know how to add a repository at all or that I need a list of repos. No. I've been using SuSE since 9.2 and understand how this at least once worked. Something changed, and I've not been able to find a detailed description of what it was. (I did read the README in the old KDE repo directory. It tells me nothing valuable and actually just points to the repo that doesn't work.) The admin of one site I visit, a developer himself, was also taken unaware by this and wrote a brief rant directed toward SuSE about it. I've still not seen a response.

Anyway ... that's the end of my rant.
 
Old 06-22-2006, 04:58 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by gbullit
Hi Red Knuckles!
These are my repositories in Yast:
http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...ss-inst-source
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linux/suse.com/suse/update/10.1
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.1
http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/10.1

I used "Add HTTP:" and then:
server name: download.opensuse.org
directory on server: distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source

It took some time to update the "database", but it's working. It was much faster in Suse 10.0.
GB
Thanks, I have the 5 repos you listed installed. Unfortunately Yast is now so slow as to be unusable. Normally I would want to load repos for KDE, Gnome, Mozilla, and maybe java but that would probably just slow things down more. Also when I use Yast for anything related to software management I literally can' use anything else.
 
Old 06-22-2006, 06:13 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by BDHamp
I get the impression across various threads that some people aren't paying attention to what is being said about this.



That one (the KDE source generally) is the problem, and it happens to be what you need to upgrade any of the KDE libraries through YAST. There's no yast sources in the directory. When I first added this, it went in with an error but then allowed me to use it. The next day, I started getting the error everyone else is reporting this has, using a source that had worked fine the day before. Trying to re-add it did not work, neither with the GUI nor the CLI. Cannot find sources ... It's the same error one used to get when trying to add a directory as a repo that didn't have the yast sources file in it.

FWIW, I have no solution. I've e-mailed, tried things, read forums, etc. for days on end. This problem started with the restructure of this and a few other products' distribution and build schemes. Most suggested solutions seem to be based on the mistaken belief I or others don't know how to add a repository at all or that I need a list of repos. No. I've been using SuSE since 9.2 and understand how this at least once worked. Something changed, and I've not been able to find a detailed description of what it was. (I did read the README in the old KDE repo directory. It tells me nothing valuable and actually just points to the repo that doesn't work.) The admin of one site I visit, a developer himself, was also taken unaware by this and wrote a brief rant directed toward SuSE about it. I've still not seen a response.

Anyway ... that's the end of my rant.
Yes. I know how to add repos to Yast or at least I did in 10.0. The point is that something is wrong with Yast. I hope the Suse folks are working on this. Until I see it fixed I'm using Smart and or Apt.

By the way why no Synaptic in 10.1? Is Yum/Yumex available in 10.1?
 
Old 06-22-2006, 08:20 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Red Knuckles
Yes. I know how to add repos to Yast or at least I did in 10.0. The point is that something is wrong with Yast. I hope the Suse folks are working on this. Until I see it fixed I'm using Smart and or Apt.

By the way why no Synaptic in 10.1? Is Yum/Yumex available in 10.1?
I'm confused right along with you.

I'm using SMART myself at the moment, which is fine now that I've figured it out, but it's quite annoying to know that I must use a software management system other than the one my distro of choice has integrated into it. Put another way, it becomes increasingly difficult to recommend SuSE as a good distro when one has to suggest that those elements of the distro that are unique to it not be used because of numerous flaws. What, in that case, should lead a person to choose SuSE over something else?

As I've said elsewhere, all these issues are pushing me more and more to other distros, and to be honest, I'm coming close just to rolling up my sleeves and constructing my Slackware installation to work as I want it. This is not a bad thing, of course, but I don't think it's what the SuSE team intended.
 
  


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