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Old 11-24-2004, 02:05 PM   #1
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Any clue when 64bit suse 9.2 will be on ftp?


Right now Im in doubt whether to use ubuntu 64 bit or suse 9.2 64 bit, but it that one will never be on ftp (or in a couple of months) then Ill probably go for ubuntu (is there a big difference between 9.1 and 9.2 and will it be easy to just upgrade?)

So the basic question is, does anyone know if/when it will be available on ftp?
 
Old 11-24-2004, 02:09 PM   #2
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Every answer to this question, and schedule I've seen says early to mid December.
 
Old 11-24-2004, 02:36 PM   #3
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Is it a good idea to install 9.1 pro 64 bit now and upgrade to 9.2 when it comes available or is it a better idea to completely reinstall?

What Im also wondering: If I install 9.1 and use YOU to completely update everything (will the kernel also be updated?) what will the differences then be with 9.2?

btw: on how many cd's dvd's does 9.2 get shipped? On the old suse site it was listed I believe for 9.1, but now I cant find it anymore I believe 5 cd's containing the 32 bit version and then 1 dvd containing both the 32 and 64 bit version? (dual layer?)

Last question: Is it possible to install 9.2 from my harddrive? I have the 5 cd's (iso) but I dont see a boot.iso, I dont have a floppy drive nor do I have 5 empty cds right now.
 
Old 11-24-2004, 03:14 PM   #4
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Is it a good idea to install 9.1 pro 64 bit now and upgrade to 9.2 when it comes available or is it a better idea to completely reinstall?
There will be no 'free' downloadable .iso files available for 9.2 pro from Novell, so I am not seeing another alternative except for an upgrade from 9.1, unless you purchase 9.2 pro.

What Im also wondering: If I install 9.1 and use YOU to completely update everything (will the kernel also be updated?) what will the differences then be with 9.2?
Yes, the latest (SuSE official) kernel will be available from YOU. You will not have the commercial packages unless you buy the product. Here's a list of the new 9.2 features - http://www.novell.com/products/linux...tures/new.html

btw: on how many cd's dvd's does 9.2 get shipped?
On the old suse site it was listed I believe for 9.1, but now I cant find it anymore I believe 5 cd's containing the 32 bit version and then 1 dvd containing both the 32 and 64 bit version? (dual layer?)

5 CD's, 2 DVD's. Yes, dual layer

Last question: Is it possible to install 9.2 from my harddrive? I have the 5 cd's (iso) but I dont see a boot.iso, I dont have a floppy drive nor do I have 5 empty cds right now.
No comment if you did not purchase the product.

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Old 11-24-2004, 03:29 PM   #5
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Originally posted by Harryc
Last question: Is it possible to install 9.2 from my harddrive? I have the 5 cd's (iso) but I dont see a boot.iso, I dont have a floppy drive nor do I have 5 empty cds right now.
No comment if you did not purchase the product. [/B]
Indeed I didnt buy it (did buy 9.1 personal though) but wasnt sure whether it was il/legal

About the packages: if I install 9.2 from ftp I assume the 3d drivers from nvidia wont be installed, but iirc, in 9.1 personal they arent included either but you can afterward download them via yast, is this also possible with an ftp install of 9.1/9.2? (these drivers are the only thing I can think of the I want as a "commercial" package (its available for free download anyway, just would be handy if yast could install them for me )

I dont even want realplayer or acrobat reader, I prefer using the open source alternatives

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Old 11-24-2004, 03:36 PM   #6
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Indeed I didnt buy it (did buy 9.1 personal though) but wasnt sure whether it was il/legal
I am not sure what you are saying here. You specifically stated above that you had (5) 9.2 .iso files, that would be illegal if not purchased from Novell.

About the packages: if I install 9.2 from ftp I assume the 3d drivers from nvidia wont be installed, but iirc, in 9.1 personal they arent included either but you can afterward download them via yast, is this also possible with an ftp install of 9.1/9.2? (these drivers are the only thing I can think of the I want as a "commercial" package (its available for free download anyway, just would be handy if yast could install them for me )
I dont even want realplayer or acrobat reader, I prefer using the open source alternatives

9.2 YOU includes NVidia drivers. Basically I think you are struggling with the following question. Will 9.2 that I upgrade to from 9.1 be the same 9.2 as the CD version?. The answers is functionally they'd be the the same in every way except for the commercial packages which are only available on the CD's/DVD's.

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Old 11-24-2004, 04:11 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Harryc
[B]Indeed I didnt buy it (did buy 9.1 personal though) but wasnt sure whether it was il/legal
I am not sure what you are saying here. You specifically stated above that you had (5) 9.2 .iso files, that would be illegal if not purchased from Novell.
I thought eveything was under the gpl license or so meaning everything was free and that you were in fact paying for the printed manual (and pressed cd's) Nevertheless, Ill probably not use it because I want 64 bit

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9.2 YOU includes NVidia drivers.
[just for confirmation]

even when Ive installed suse 9.1/2 from ftp? I couldnt care less about the other commercial stuff
 
Old 11-24-2004, 05:09 PM   #8
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Originally posted by Schumi4ever
[B]I thought eveything was under the gpl license or so meaning everything was free and that you were in fact paying for the printed manual (and pressed cd's) Nevertheless, Ill probably not use it because I want 64 bit



[just for confirmation]

even when Ive installed suse 9.1/2 from ftp? I couldnt care less about the other commercial stuff
Yes, YOU is YOU. No difference. All patches are available. YaST itself, of which YOU is a part is under the GPL license. Not everything on the 9.2 CD's is GPL, unless they were not made by Novell (.i.e a third party releasing only GPL code).

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