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Old 03-09-2019, 03:13 PM   #196
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If no one would jump on all these offtopic comments, and just leave this thread alone, it would die out all by itself and no time would be wasted by devs checking out who wants what everytime this thread floats to the first page.
 
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Old 03-09-2019, 06:27 PM   #197
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I got 2 questions:

0. Are there any plans to add formal support for Wayland, maybe only in /extra first? I know that slackbuilds.org is now formally endorsed by Pat but still.

1. Are there any plans to remove all setuid root bits and replace them with capabilities just like Fedora say it did https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RemoveSETUID?

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Old 03-09-2019, 07:54 PM   #198
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I got 2 questions:

0. Are there any plans to add formal support for Wayland, maybe only in /extra first? I know that slackbuilds.org is now formally endorsed by Pat but still.
There wouldn't be much point in putting it in /extra where things in the main tree can't link against it. I do know that Eric would like to see it since Plasma 5 can use it. We'll see, I guess.

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1. Are there any plans to remove all setuid root bits and replace them with capabilities just like Fedora say it did https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RemoveSETUID?
Possibly, but there's no real timeframe (or hurry). I think most of the setuid things have been audited well enough that there's probably little risk in them being the way they are. But I did add the ability for the pkgtools to store capabilities in a Slackware package a year or so ago.
 
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:03 AM   #199
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I am going to keep this vague as possible , and only say that Slackware 15 will be released this year - on a Tuesday.

-edit

I expect another great release is what I expect.

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Old 03-10-2019, 06:29 AM   #200
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Rather than asking when will it be released, I prefer to ask the devs:
- what are the main "blockers" which makes that a new release is not possible?
 
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Old 03-10-2019, 06:34 AM   #201
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Rather than asking when will it be released, I prefer to ask the devs:
- what are the main "blockers" which makes that a new release is not possible?
This is actually the first worthwhile post in quite a few. So basically what you're saying is - what's holding it up? That's a good and fair question at this point, especially since this is the longest period between releases yet.

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Old 03-10-2019, 06:45 AM   #202
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I suspect part of it is Pat trying to figure out how the hell he's going to distribute/monetise it without "the store".
 
Old 03-11-2019, 09:21 AM   #203
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I suspect part of it is Pat trying to figure out how the hell he's going to distribute/monetise it without "the store".
I am happy that the community stepped up and started donating to his paypal account. I agree. It likely is a daunting choice to decide how best to get Slackware 15 out and make money. OpenBSD made the move away from distributing physical media. Perhaps it is time for Slackware to get away from issuing physical media?
 
Old 03-12-2019, 10:32 AM   #204
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When and what do you expect from Slackware 15?

I'd love a USB thumb drive with Slackware (old... Please...) logo.

I know I would have 2 or more to have a few flavors of Slackware-live on it as well...
 
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:04 AM   #205
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I'd love a USB thumb drive with Slackware (old... Please...) logo.

I know I would have 2 or more to have a few flavors of Slackware-live on it as well...
New thread idea, maybe.
 
Old 03-12-2019, 12:24 PM   #206
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I suspect part of it is Pat trying to figure out how the hell he's going to distribute/monetise it without "the store".
I'd be (respectfully) suggesting a periodic 'pay what you can' subscription (as opposed to the old release based subscription) - perhaps yearly, quarterly or monthly. Software vendors appear to be moving to a subscription model these days generally reflecting the way costs build up over time. Either direct from Mr Volkerding or perhaps setting up an entity to collect the subscriptions like patreon or the alternatives that others have suggested.

I'd (respectfully) suggest abandoning an actual DVD as physical product, perhaps pointing those who need a physical DVD towards services like https://thelinuxshop.co.uk/ or similar.

Back on topic: My hope is for an .iso file that can be installed to give a mostly complete desktop as we have now. If I add openoffice/libreoffice to a stock Slackware install, I have almost all of what I need for day to day operations.
 
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Old 03-23-2019, 02:27 AM   #207
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I hope this is the right place to ask, because I don't follow -current or the mailing list. More than one year ago I have installed 14.2 on a computer with 2 HDDs. It came with the OS-that-should-not-be-named pre-installed from the computer store on the first drive, I have installed Slackware on second one (that was the plan from the start). The only major problem that didn't let me have two completely isolated systems was that I had to use the EFI partition from the first HDD - I have installed eEFInd there and I use it to boot Slackware 99.99% of the time. I could not select the second HDD to make its own EFI partition during the Slackware install. I was told in this forum that this is a limitation of the installer. So my question is: will Slackware 15 have this feature?

TLDR: once Slackware 15 will be out, will I be able to explicitly select the hard drive device where I want the EFI partition created during the install process?

Thanks.
 
Old 03-23-2019, 03:06 AM   #208
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I suspect part of it is Pat trying to figure out how the hell he's going to distribute/monetise it without "the store".
Putting a statement about the store situation on slackware.com will be a start. There could be a link to the relevant discussion at LQ, as well as a link to volkerdi's paypal. Not everyone follows the LQ forums after all...
 
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:43 AM   #209
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I was told in this forum that this is a limitation of the installer. So my question is: will Slackware 15 have this feature?
Thanks.
You can select the second.... or any other EFI boot partition from the UEFI boot screen using 14.2 right now.
My communication skills are not great but there are many on this forum who have multiple EFI drives and partitions. My system has 3 separate EFI bootable drives which can be selected from the UEFI boot screen.
one NVME drive
one SSD drive
one Spinning Rust
Sorry I can't talk you thru an install, but I'll wager there are others who will pick this up.
John

NOTE: (See above reference to communication skill) you may not be able to do it from the installer but it is definitely doable.
HTH
John

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Old Yesterday, 01:37 AM   #210
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you may not be able to do it from the installer
and this is exactly what my question is about. I was not able to tell Slackware 14.2 to put elilo on the EFI partition of the second hard drive (which I created) during the install process, since it detected the EFI partition on the first hard drive and placed elilo there.
 
  


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