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Old 10-20-2017, 09:39 AM   #1
lagavulin16
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When and what do you expect from Slackware 15?


Subj. As for me, my only complaint regarding Slackware is old stock kernel, it often can't work properly with new hardware, and manually updating it is a pain. Maybe Pat will invent some new mechanism for updating kernels?
 
Old 10-20-2017, 09:55 AM   #2
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When and what do you expect from Slackware 15?
When it's ready, and more of the same.

I suspect Pat will update to 4.14 when it releases (assuming it's any good) given that it's the new LTS, but wouldn't expect any methodology changes if I were you. Updating kernels will likely be left to the sysadmin to do, much as before.
 
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Old 10-20-2017, 01:36 PM   #3
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I agree with GazL. Stability is a major factor that Pat has to consider for all software going into Slackware as well as length of support. It is likely that Pat will continue to stick with LTS kernels, and now that the 4.4 and the 4.14 series kernels will have 6 years of support, it is likely they'll be used for any releases.

It is highly unlikely that Pat will move 14.2 beyond the 4.4 kernel. Any further updates to the kernel in 14.2 are highly likely to be within the 4.4 series. That is most likely to try to ensure the stability of the release, and he only updates it when there are serious security or implications, so don't expect more than a handful of updates. There have only been 6 updates from the 4.4.14 that 14.2 shipped with, and each were to patch a severe vulnerability that the previous version was affected by. Even now, Slackware 14.2 is at 4.4.88, which 4.4.93 is available from kernel.org.

Having Pat try and keep up with the kernel development releases for all of the Slackware versions that aren't EOL (6 different versions plus the constant updates in -current) seems unmanageable. If you need an newer kernel, it is relatively easy to do yourself.

That being said, if you don't mind others doing that work, forum member 55020 created his dusk project, which will compile newer versions of the kernels once they are available from kernel.org and he provides them as Slackware packages in a repo that is slackpkg+ compatible. He currently has packages for the 4.4, 4.12 (EOL), and 4.13 series kernels (he had a 4.9 series, but Pat was staying on top of those in -current, so it was a duplicated work). They work great in both stable and -current (I'm running his 4.13.7 kernel in my 14.1 machine).
 
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Old 10-20-2017, 02:57 PM   #4
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Talking

Let see what my magic 8 ball says regarding Slackware 15:

Shake shake shake.....

Code:
Ready when its Ready
Shake Shake

Code:
KISS
Shake Shake

Code:
well tested, proven
Shake Shake
Code:
Similar to the past rooted in its legacy
Shake Shake

Code:
will run and run and run, and remind you why you use it and not other distros...
Shake Shake

Code:
ok, any more shakes and you're just playing with it

Last edited by ChuangTzu; 10-20-2017 at 02:59 PM.
 
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Old 10-20-2017, 04:31 PM   #5
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When it's ready, and more of the same.
^^^^^

What he said.
 
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Old 10-20-2017, 06:36 PM   #6
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lagavulin16 - have you tried compiling a kernel since version 4x came out? It is really easy and can have some great advantages besides just keeping up with new hardware. Take a look here --- Slack Kernel Building ---
 
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Old 10-20-2017, 08:31 PM   #7
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I expect yet another rock-solid version that always works and never breaks.
 
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Old 10-21-2017, 03:16 AM   #8
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Apart from the usual stability, what the next version of Slackware will provide are incense sticks and bottle openers.
 
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:49 AM   #9
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When it's ready, and more of the same.
 
Old 10-21-2017, 08:35 AM   #10
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Apart from the usual stability, what the next version of Slackware will provide are incense sticks and bottle openers.
I checked at the SlackwareŽ Store but could not find either.

Have fun & enjoy!
 
Old 10-21-2017, 10:10 AM   #11
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I checked at the SlackwareŽ Store but could not find either.

Have fun & enjoy!
You are right. They use to offer a bottle opener, but no more.
What I really want is a Slackware coffee mug. They are available elsewhere, but not from the "official" store.
 
Old 10-21-2017, 10:28 AM   #12
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The next release will require users to have the SlackwareŽ logo tattooed on their foreheads. Anyone not willing to do this can get to f ... f ... Fedora out of here!

It'll be ready sometime, and I'll expect it in the post.
 
Old 10-21-2017, 10:29 AM   #13
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Just FYI, while we are talking about Slackware Store, Got Slack T-Shirt is now on sale
 
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:07 AM   #14
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Hi,


I checked at the SlackwareŽ Store but could not find either.

Have fun & enjoy!
No, you won't find them in the store. The products will be built in the kernel.
 
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:39 PM   #15
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When? stock answer "When it's ready"

"what do you expect from Slackware 15"? what's in current of course
 
  


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