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I sometimes... use Vivaldi on Windows 10 at work... its usability there is top-notch, and some Chromium-based browsers' websites are flagged by our IT gods as bad places to go, so I can't even try some of others I wanted to unless I try a workaround.
TKS
Vivaldi related, not Slackware specifically, but in case anyone uses Vivaldi somewhere with Symantec or Norton:
Grumble... as of the recent 2.10 update, Vivaldi wouldn’t open. I’m now using a temporary workaround for Vivaldi at work for it to open (Win 10 1709, Symantec Endpoint Protection.)
Symantec / Norton cause as far as I see, not Vivaldi.
Two workarounds:
1) Temporarily rename vivaldi.exe something else ex. vivaldi210.exe, and make sure your launcher points at the new name.
Check for updates fails with the first workaround, but a function is disabled with the second, so pick your poison. There may be other downsides to both workarounds.
In both cases, once a permanent fix is (hopefully) made, remember to undo the workaround.
TKS
Last edited by TheTKS; 01-02-2020 at 03:06 PM.
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Just upgraded to latest stable using ruario's excellent script install-latest.sh
Almost everything is great, but Vivaldi's widevine still causes trouble - open.spotify.com doesn't work.
Replacing the symlink to /var/opt/vivaldi/WidevineCdm with one to /usr/lib64/chromium/WidevineCdm (Eric's chromion and widevine packages), and spotify works just fine.
Ok, that is not something I replicate here. It all works out of the box for me. Did others need to do this?
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Another pleasant change in 2.10.1745.23 compared to 2.10.1745.21 is that the widevine plugin works for open.spotify.com
Ok, I won't worry about this after all
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World domination. Greed.
Fine but how does us having a Chrome UA aid them in achieving/maintaining world domination? I still do not follow your logic.
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While we are "in my mind" perhaps you can explain something. As you know I was a big fan of the "old" Opera (12.16 and earlier) and have tried Vivaldi from time to time, but the thing that drives me away is it appears to remember the browsing history regardless of what is done to erase it.
IIRC, I've brought this up before.
Every other browser I've ever used, including Vivaldi, will highlight a link on a web page, once you click on it and every other browser, except Vivaldi, will clear those highlighted links (return them to their normal color) once you have cleared your history. With Vivaldi you can close/leave a web site, clear your history via alt-t-d and then click on "delete," return to the web page and the links are still highlighted. Having done all the above you can close Vivaldi, restart it, return to the web page and the links are still highlighted.
It has to be storing the history to do that, is it not?
You stated that you have mentioned this before and I vagely recall that you did and that I replied but it wasn't in this thread. Nonetheless I went back and found our interaction in another thread
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For example, you go to distrowatch.com and you click on a link for information about the latest release of your favorite package and/or distro. Once done, as long as you don't clear your cookies and cache, each time you return to the main page of distrowatch.com, those links will be highlighted to let you know you have used them.
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Originally Posted by ruario
It has nothing to do with cache and cookies but rather browsing history. Clear your history (or just the distrowatch entries) and those links will change back. This is inheritted behaviour from the Chromium project (since we have a chromium backend). I see the same in Chrome 68.
I still cannot reproduce your problem. Can anyone else here?
I also recall a different issue you had in the past with the WebRTC setting being overridden and it turned out to be caused by one of your extensions. Are you sure something like this is not happening again now?
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BTW, it would be easier if, like the "old" Opera, you could clear private data with alt-t-d and then hit enter, rather than having to tab to the detele button or click the delete button with the mouse. It would also nice if this process was still available when in the private browsing mode.
Ctrl+Shift+Del (which can be remapped). You will need to select something with mouse of via tabbing (in your case browsing history and a time period), though whatever you selected previously will be remembered for next time.
They concept of private browsing was quite different in Opera (per tab). In Vivaldi the whole window is private and runs it own disposable preferences, history and cache. The private windows is not supposed to be able to alter your regular preferences, history or cache for security reasons, i.e. it is isolated. Hence, no you cannt do it from a private window. If we made it so that the private windows showed your regular history and allowed deletion it would also be quite confusing as users would believe that one was related to the other and they are not.
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Originally Posted by Skaendo
I do think that it's a bad idea to change the string to Chrome. When you do this, you have just told every website that Vivaldi no longer exists and they don't need to change anything on their end to accommodate Vivaldi and their users.
What exactly do they need to accommodate? We have the same rendering engine. Everything should display the same, if it does not is it probably a bug that we should fix. This is not like Opera that had a different engine. Thus there is nothing to accommodate.
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If you want mainstream growth and acceptance you need your name out there in their faces and the end users complaining to broken websites that they need to fix their site to work with the browser that they have chosen.
If they fix it to work with Chrome, it will work with us. As for growth let me give you an example from another browser which I am in no way affiliated. Brave recently annoucned they hit 10 million users. They have never used their own UA. Lacking a Brave UA has not held back they growth. On the contrary, it probably aided it.
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Ruarí, do you plan to update the SlackBuild in near future to change the maintainer name? In this case, you will receive mails asking to upgrade the script :-)
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Originally Posted by Skaendo
Please update the SlackBuild ruario.
Sorry yes I said I could/would do this but I actually have not yet. I'll get on that.
Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib" and KDE4Town.
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Originally Posted by ruario
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I still cannot reproduce your problem. Can anyone else here?
I also recall a different issue you had in the past with the WebRTC setting being overridden and it turned out to be caused by one of your extensions. Are you sure something like this is not happening again now?.......
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
In regards to the "re-appearing" history, there are no extensions installed. The problem continues to this day, which is why I now rarely use Vivaldi except when a page won't display properly in Pale Moon or Firefox. Recently that has only happened when using the search (for store) function on the peets.com web site.
I would like to use Vivaldi, as it reminds of the "old Opera" of which I was a big fan, but I just don't trust it. That is, in part, due to guilt by association with anything to do with google.
Last edited by cwizardone; 01-03-2020 at 07:40 AM.
I would like to use Vivaldi, as it reminds of the "old Opera" of which I was a big fan, but I just don't trust it. That is, in part, due to guilt by association with anything to do with google.
Well we monitor and do our best to remove anything that appears to be tracking. Also worth keeping in mind that Jon is behind broth browser and roughly 40% of the team is old ex-opera.
I run stable, but it looks like the current snapshot release has fixed the issue of leaving space over the tabs after exiting a full-screen video. It was a small, but annoying, issue that I'm hoping has been resolved.
Thanks, for that and this time I eventually remembered to update the SlackBuild (even with valid checksums, which I am told I messed up when I first took over).
I do need to get into the swing of remembering to update this SlackBuild. It should be easier for me than most because I am the person who is primarily in charge of releases for all desktop platforms. Just a new item for my checklist I suppose.
I wouldn't say this makes Slackware an officially packaged platform because if I was away I doubt anyone from Vivaldi would update in my absence but it is semi-official I suppose with me (an employee) maintaining it. And Vivaldi certainly gets a lot of Slackware testing, as it is my main work platform.
I also took the opportunity to simplify the Slackbuild ever so slightly, with regards to install of Widevine and Proprietary media. The Slackbuild for instance no longer installs anything into /var/opt as that is easier to avoid than with official packages. I'll probably also refine the Slackbuild further as time goes on.
Thanks, for that and this time I eventually remembered to update the SlackBuild (even with valid checksums, which I am told I messed up when I first took over).
Thanks for the SBo script update again ruario.
I have a question/request about profiles.
I install Vivaldi on multiple machines, all with unique names. (build, test, htpc, daily, etc)
Now I have noticed that Vivaldi knows which machine that I am running on, but the same profile is synced to all machines. Is it possible to have different machines use different "subprofiles" maybe?
I know that I am probably a niche user, but it would be extremely convenient to be able to load a profile based on the machine name (or by selection) instead of having one "generic" (for lack of a better term) profile or having multiple Vivaldi accounts to manage profiles.
Vivaldi is coming along well, I like how it is going! I see new little things in settings all the time! Thanks!
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