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11-08-2013, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,191
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jtsn
You are officially allowed to seed the Slackware ISO by the copyright holder. Sharing Slackware Linux isn't illegal.
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At least in my country of origin most small ISPs ban the most widely used p2p file sharing protocols because these ISPs are heavily overselling their second hand bandwidths they bought from larger ISPs. They say this is for copyright protection. The trick that these ISPs are playing is -- I accuse you (of breaking copyright protection) before you find me guilty (of overselling bandwidth), or as an idiom "贼喊捉贼".
The major ISPs normally allow bittorrent and so on.
Last edited by guanx; 11-08-2013 at 09:56 AM.
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11-08-2013, 10:01 AM
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#62
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Registered: Sep 2011
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Even FTP is a P2P file sharing protocol, so what exactly do these ISPs ban? Do these ISP know how the Internet works?
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11-08-2013, 10:05 AM
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#63
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Moderator
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Central Florida 20 minutes from Disney World
Distribution: Slackware®
Posts: 13,971
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LQ Slackware Linux 14.1 ISO information & downloads
Hi,
Do not forget LQ Slackware Linux 14.1 for downloading;
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The Official Release of Slackware Linux by Patrick Volkerding is an advanced Linux operating system, designed with the twin goals of ease of use and stability as top priorities. Including the latest popular software while retaining a sense of tradition, providing simplicity and ease of use alongside flexibility and power, Slackware brings the best of all worlds to the table.
Patrick Volkerding has announced the release of Slackware Linux 14.1, a new version of the world's oldest surviving Linux distribution...
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Plus look at Slackware 14.1 X86_32, X86_64 stable released. Torrents! Please seed! to help relieve the loads.
Happy Slacking!
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2 members found this post helpful.
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11-08-2013, 10:06 AM
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#64
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LQ Addict
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Paris, France
Distribution: Slint64-15.0
Posts: 11,286
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About "贼喊捉贼", in Molière, L'Avare, Acte IV, scène 7:
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Au voleur ! au voleur ! à l'assassin ! au meurtrier ! Justice, juste Ciel ! je suis perdu, je suis assassiné, on m'a coupé la gorge, on m'a dérobé mon argent. [...]
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11-08-2013, 10:26 AM
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#65
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Oct 2013
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Thanks Pat
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11-08-2013, 12:03 PM
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#66
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Member
Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Belgium
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 59
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Thanks to Pat and everyone involved in this great new release
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11-08-2013, 01:00 PM
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Registered: Jun 2009
Distribution: Slackware
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Subscription phone number
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Originally Posted by DrCube
Does anybody know how the subscription works? I got a DVD subscription with 14.0 last year, does that mean I'll automatically get a copy of 14.1 in the mail? How do I check to make sure my credit card info is up to date?
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It's automatic if nothing changes. I called +1-925 240-6652 and left a message to update my info. Received a same-day friendly call back and everything is cool now.
As far as when... haven't heard anything about any delays, but it's usually a couple of weeks before CD/DVDs start shipping.
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14.1 is a fine OS release. Thanks Pat and crew!
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11-08-2013, 01:08 PM
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#68
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Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Command Line
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 75
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Whoever said Nov 5th release day was pretty close =) Thanks again Pat and the crew for the rock solid stability that we all love.
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11-08-2013, 01:14 PM
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#69
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Senior Member
Registered: Nov 2003
Distribution: Slackʍɐɹǝ
Posts: 1,488
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nh3xus
enine : I'm not sure what you mean here.
Your ISP, has banned any kind of P2P traffic on its customers Internet accesses ?
That sounds crazy to me.
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Yep, one of the reasons I left them years ago. Any kind of "server" is not allowed. I had switched to Wide open West who didn't mind but then a few years later they decided to upgrade their billing system making it incapable of billing me so they would charge me late fees. I left them for insight and then Warner bought insight and forced the Warner TOS on me again.
Way back when we first had Warner I finally escalated to a higher manager because of the speed issues preventing my wife from doing her online college class. The manager informed me I'd have to use their business service for my wife to take an online college class as their residential was "for entertainment purposes only". I paid my last bill with a check marked "void - for entertainment purposes only" when I switched to WOW.
Anyway long story but the most of the ISPs in the US all thing p2p and file sharing and uploads are being used to pirate crappy mp3's and movies so they get banned. We had a choice of three but its now down to 2 unless you want DSL which is an AT&T monopoly and they couldn't even keep a land line phone working.
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11-08-2013, 01:49 PM
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Registered: Dec 2008
Location: New York
Distribution: Slack -current, siduction
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A hearty thanks to Pat and all the team! Been a faithful Slacker and happy camper since 12.1.
Will start seeding when I get home tonight, and rushing to the mailbox each day in anticipation of another DVD
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11-08-2013, 02:48 PM
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Registered: May 2004
Distribution: Slackware
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Quote:
Originally Posted by enine
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I paid my last bill with a check marked "void - for entertainment purposes only" when i switched to wow.
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Haha! FTW.
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11-08-2013, 03:34 PM
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#72
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: London
Distribution: Slackware64-current
Posts: 5,836
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Congratulations to Pat and the crew!!!
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11-08-2013, 04:57 PM
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#73
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LQ Guru
Registered: Jul 2011
Location: California
Distribution: Slackware64-15.0 Multilib
Posts: 6,564
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jtsn
Even FTP is a P2P file sharing protocol, so what exactly do these ISPs ban? Do these ISP know how the Internet works?
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They look mostly for direct P2P connections and networking protocols used by things like gnutella, edonkey, magnet, and other such file sharing protocols used by the likes of Shareaza, LimeWire, and such clients. However, these files with connections in progress have to be of a certain size and type, as well as be actively identified as an illegally shared file to act. However, most knowledgeable users steer clear of these networks as most have become breeding grounds for viruses, worms, and other malware.
It's hard for them to directly detect and block BitTorrent because too many services with large files use BitTorrent clients and services to distribute files. It's mostly websites and server that serve as trackers they go after to shut down BitTorrent shares.
For an ISP to actually disable your internet service, they have to have proof positive of illegal activities, otherwise they could effectively be facing a lawsuit for wrongful termination of services. This is why they monitor what the ports, network protocols, and sizes of files in transmission, along with sources, and log everything.
They can't just yank your internet for downloading LibreOffice over BitTorrent, claiming an illegal file transfer. If they did, you could have a lawyer subpoena the logs, and they'd get the book thrown at them for not only lying under oath, but breach of contract, illegal termination of a paid service without merit, and so on, possibly even false advertising.
It's a fairly timely process they go through to actually take you off the internet.
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11-08-2013, 06:24 PM
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#74
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Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Veneto
Distribution: Slackware64
Posts: 372
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Congratulations for another great version! I have been running -current and it is solid as a brick. Thank you for all the good work!
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11-08-2013, 07:51 PM
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#75
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LQ 5k Club
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Slackware64 15; SlackwareARM-current (aarch64); Debian 12
Posts: 8,311
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Installed the 64-bit 14.1 on my desktop, and the nouveau driver works! It didn't with 14.0. Now I'll have to decide whether to stick with that or install the binary blob...decisions...decisions...decisions...
Everything seems OK so far, as usual.
P.S.
Just noticed, on running lsmod, that kvm_amd is loaded by default. Nice.
Last edited by brianL; 11-08-2013 at 07:58 PM.
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