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Old 11-28-2021, 04:57 AM   #196
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https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/is-sla...right-for-you/
 
Old 11-28-2021, 05:11 AM   #197
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Interesting although flattering at the surface it lacks in few (key?) points:

1. One of the screenshots shows gnome as an install option

2. The author avoids any mention of Slack Builds org as there is only Arch's AUR and BSD's ports as a equivalent - other distros just host/roll their own packages

3. The author seems to intentionally make the fact that Slackware is the oldest actively developed distro in existence - fuzzy and obscure, why?


Other than that, I wouldn't say it sports the 90's oddnes:

Slackware Linux is what you see if you ssh/telnet for a living anyway, and it still has a nice GUI besides of that.
 
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Old 11-28-2021, 05:16 AM   #198
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David is a freelance writer based in the Pacific Northwest, but originally hailing from the Bay Area. He has been a technology enthusiast since childhood. David's interests include reading, watching quality TV shows and movies, retro gaming, and record collecting.
do you think I should follow David's advice?
 
Old 11-28-2021, 06:29 AM   #199
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Interesting although flattering at the surface it lacks in few (key?) points:

Other than that, I wouldn't say it sports the 90's oddnes:

Slackware Linux is what you see if you ssh/telnet for a living anyway, and it still has a nice GUI besides of that.
The first paragraph of that blog refers to Slackware's non-user friendly roots and a website that looks unchanged from the 90's. Hardly endearing by the writer. He goes on to completely miss the point and allude to how "hard" Slackware is to work with, and his main reason to use the distro is if you're nostalgic or "an anti-systemd diehard". I think reading (between the lines) the last paragraph of that blog, it tells the viewer everything they need to know.

IMHO it's misrepresented by the title, which should read, "Slackware is not the Right Linux Distribution for You - Here's why not..."
 
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Old 11-28-2021, 08:06 AM   #200
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The first paragraph of that blog refers to Slackware's non-user friendly roots and a website that looks unchanged from the 90's. Hardly endearing by the writer. He goes on to completely miss the point and allude to how "hard" Slackware is to work with, and his main reason to use the distro is if you're nostalgic or "an anti-systemd diehard". I think reading (between the lines) the last paragraph of that blog, it tells the viewer everything they need to know.

IMHO it's misrepresented by the title, which should read, "Slackware is not the Right Linux Distribution for You - Here's why not..."
How about :

"How dare You even consider Slackware as a right distro for You"

Sounds more modern?

All i know is:
- once i waded into modding routers into free/open firmware i was like at home - all due to Slackware.

there might be many more examples, but we might digress from the thread?
 
Old 11-28-2021, 08:19 AM   #201
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There are a few reasons why you want to use Slackware. You might want to learn more about Linux by setting things up manually. You might also want full control over every aspect of your Linux system.
Nuff said.
 
Old 11-28-2021, 08:33 AM   #202
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So I read

Nuff said.
That's about the only unopinionated and impartial statement in the whole thing.
 
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Old 11-28-2021, 05:38 PM   #203
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I will have to invest a lot of money in new hardware to do that. At moment there is however no sponsor. On my Lenovo watching movies can be a challenge.
Those days are over: in 2021, you can fire up a shiny new virtual private server running slackware for 20 zloty / month: ssh is less challenging than ffplay for an old Lenovo... when you need to do something powerful, upgrade the VPS to 32CPUS, perform powerful compilations in minutes, then downgrade back to affordable VPS... and the github won't charge you to host stable igadoternix...

In other words, building your own stable version of slackware is totally doable on weak hardware, simply by temporarily connecting to powerful hardware for hire--you only need an account long enough to perform your builds... then share it all at free github, and close down vps... possible with 1 day and the price of a few loafs of bread.
 
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Old 11-28-2021, 05:47 PM   #204
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Thanks slac-in-the-box. I will rethink this.

Edit: But mind Poland is not USA. Remote learning is not possible here because too few households have both computer and internet access. Shame but true. My estimate is about 30% percent only. So at least 30-50 % of children don't have access to computer with internet. I am posting for you to realize that things can be not so simple to achieve here.

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Old 11-29-2021, 05:04 AM   #205
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The first paragraph of that blog refers to Slackware's non-user friendly roots and a website that looks unchanged from the 90's. Hardly endearing by the writer. He goes on to completely miss the point and allude to how "hard" Slackware is to work with, and his main reason to use the distro is if you're nostalgic or "an anti-systemd diehard". I think reading (between the lines) the last paragraph of that blog, it tells the viewer everything they need to know.

IMHO it's misrepresented by the title, which should read, "Slackware is not the Right Linux Distribution for You - Here's why not..."
Absolutely - people should be on the alert for weasel words:

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The comprehensiveness of a default installation helps mitigate the lack of automatic dependency resolution. Even if the installation program is a throwback to the '90s, the desktops are more modern in appearance.
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Slackware's preference for stability means that there's a bias towards older software, and some choices seem downright eccentric. Slackware installs the LILO bootloader, while most other distros have since long moved to GRUB.
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Should You Use Slackware?

There are a few reasons why you want to use Slackware. You might want to learn more about Linux by setting things up manually. You might also want full control over every aspect of your Linux system. Maybe you're just nostalgic for the '90s. Or you're an anti-systemd diehard.

If Slackware sounds like fun to you, grab an ISO, crank up your Nirvana and Pearl Jam CDs, and party like it's 1993! Fortunately, you won't need a mountain of floppies to install it.

If you want a distro that offers a plug-and-play experience, stick with Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, or openSUSE. On the other hand, if you want a hands-on distro with newer software and automatic dependency resolution, you might be better off with either Arch Linux or Gentoo.

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Old 11-29-2021, 01:27 PM   #206
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Absolutely - people should be on the alert for weasel words:
That's some BS you quoted there, where the heck did you find that?

Last time I checked "plug'n'play" worked in Slackware too, lol. And nostalgic to be able to control your own computer? What is he trying to say, GNU/Linux otherwise have turned into windows? Disgusting.
Sad to see that those are some of the opinions you can find around about Slackware. Sounds utterly prejudice and ignorant, makes me a bit annoyed actually.

"Slackware, your tinker friendly distro"
"Slackware, it just works"
"Slackware, elegance in simplicity"

There you go, that's better.

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Old 11-30-2021, 02:16 AM   #207
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See post #196.

I am neither shocked nor surprised at the comments. Every "review" of a Linux distribution seems to be based on this metric of "ease of use" or "ease of installation" and little else. Someone pointed out that gnome was present in the installer options in an image used in that "review" so the reviewer didn't even use original material.
 
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:29 AM   #208
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I Suppose it's Time ...

All --

I rarely reply to these threads but here goes

If history is a guide, Slackware 15.0 is imminent because ...
  • Installed Slackware Current on kjhlt5 in QT1 2011 which became Slackware 13.37 after I 'went live' on kjhlt5
  • Installed Slackware Current on kjhlt6 in QT1 2016 which became Slackware 14.2 after I went live on kjhlt6
  • Installed Slackware Current on kjhlt7 on Nov 7 2021 and I will be going live this weekend now that I understand how to manage Kernels in GRUB2 a little bit
So ... with my last two LapTops, I went thru the process of renaming current/ and switching my SlackBuilds over to Stable.

My guess for Slackware 15.0 is some time fairly soon after Dec 5 so I can go thru my traditional processes of renaming my local current/ mirrors to 15.0/

Maybe Dec 25 ?

-- kjh( ho Ho HO )
 
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Old 11-30-2021, 08:54 AM   #209
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Which will come first: the end of this thread or 15.0?
 
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Old 11-30-2021, 01:51 PM   #210
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Talking [SOLVED][SOLVED] Mr. Volkerding please release 15.0 as soon as possible even sooner

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Which will come first: the end of this thread or 15.0?
Really?

How about this:
how many [SOLVED] can a thread contain in the title?
OFC it will live thru the 15.0 glorious arrival
 
  


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