[SOLVED] Donating to Slackware

bassmadrigal · 07-24-2018, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ziprun

Why /extra? It should be added to /a if it works and it would be important enough given how KDE could be dropped

This would be adding support, for the first time, to have something built in to install 3rd-party packages without manually downloading them and using installpkg. I don't know if Pat would do that lightly.

codeguy · 07-24-2018, 12:08 PM

First of all, I think you should all stop overreacting and causing more damage.

He said revenue of 100K. But nothing about expenses. 40% of the income, and I'd assume 40% of the expenses.

He also said health insurance. So all of your canceled subscriptions are going to hurt, and it could be bad.

Please quit going off the deep end and lets think it through before we grab pitchforks!

RadicalDreamer · 07-24-2018, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by codeguy

First of all, I think you should all stop overreacting and causing more damage.

He said revenue of 100K. But nothing about expenses. 40% of the income, and I'd assume 40% of the expenses.

He also said health insurance. So all of your canceled subscriptions are going to hurt, and it could be bad.

Please quit going off the deep end and lets think it through before we grab pitchforks!

He isn't getting any of the money. He needs to setup a payment system so he gets paid.

ponce · 07-24-2018, 12:14 PM

I suggest we keep our suggestions on how to improve the distribution into another topic...

chrisretusn · 07-24-2018, 12:19 PM

That issue with the Slackware Store just plain ticks me off. My check is in the mail, once I know were to send it. Or any other method that is determined. I have a PayPal account. I have a Patreon account, I support some friends, adding another a piece of cake. I have a number of friends who use Patreon, most of them have no complaints about the service. I couple of friends use Ko-fi https://ko-fi.com/, it does require a PayPal account. Librepay mention earlier looks interesting. On merchandise, shirts coffee mugs, etc. don't recall https://teespring.com/ being mentioned. I have friends who use them, no complaints.

Subscription canceled!

Now I am thinking about burning that shirt I bought awhile back, though it was way more that two years ago. <evil grin>

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Originally Posted by volkerdi

As far as Slackware 15.0 goes, I've been testing PAM and Kerberos here and have given quite some thought to trying to get them merged (or at least in /testing) so that we can have proper support for Active Directory and NFS. Plasma 5 has been a consideration as well, although frankly it's grown much larger than GNOME was back when I decided that should be spun off for third party maintenance. If that's going in, we really need to analyze which dependencies would not be used outside of Plasma and stick all of those in the KDE series. I'm as tired of the pollution of the L series as the rest of you are.

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Originally Posted by Alien Bob

If Pat takes care of the "L" series dependencies for Plasma 5 then I I have no problem to keep releasing new Plasma 5 packages from my own 'ktown' repository. I'd rather see a stable core OS than one that falls apart at the seams (or whose content is getting stale) just because Slackware is a one-man show. At the moment I am holding back on new Plasma5 releases because of the decisions I need Pat to make.

Getting rid of KDE4 and instead adding LXQT or Lumina instead of Plasma5 will still give people a nice Qt5 based desktop out of the box. Without Plasma5, Slackware will of course say good bye to some good applications like K3b, Okular, Konqueror.

Not to thrilled about the thought of loosing Plasma, wasn't to keen on loosing GNOME back in the day either, in fact I shipped out to another distribution for a while before crawling back to Slackware <grin>. No K3b and Okular, ouch. Konqueror I will not miss. <grin> I will have to look at LXQT or Lumina.

I definitely like that Eric has no problem with continuing Plasma releases. The possibility of have ktown continue is sort of like having cake "and" ice cream. I am right comfortable with Plasma but I will overcome and adapt as needed. I use a few KDE applications that were not previously part of ktown and have been pleasantly surprised when all of them eventually showed up in ktown. All of my non-slack Qt4 packages have all migrated to Qt5. I definitely
All in all, my moving around days are over, I will stick with Slackware regardless. I just can't see my self using another distribution <shudder>.

codeguy · 07-24-2018, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RadicalDreamer

He isn't getting any of the money. He needs to setup a payment system so he gets paid.

Thats NOT what he said. Stop over reacting.

Stop canceling subscription, you will hurt his health insurance!

RadicalDreamer · 07-24-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by codeguy

Thats NOT what he said. Stop over reacting.

Stop canceling subscription, you will hurt his health insurance!

Yes it is what he said. He was referring to staying because of health insurance for his child but that was before Obamacare.

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Originally Posted by volkerdi

I have no evidence that they've ever done anything with donations besides line their own pockets. I've not been paid any money by them in two years. That was upon the 14.2 release (and followed another long period of time with no income). The 14.2 release generated nearly $100K in revenue. The store gave me $15K, and later said that I was "overpaid".

Cancel the damned subscriptions everyone and help him set something up for himself.

codeguy · 07-24-2018, 12:33 PM

Is it a problem, yes! Does he need to set something up? Yes!

Revenue - expenses = profit

All we know is revenue = 100k. Thats not enough information to make any decisions on.

Does he need his roof fixed, yes, and I'd be happy to help.

If he still has health insurance via the store, lets let him keep it, huh? You bankrupt the store and he looses his health insurance. Is that what you want?

Calm down.

codeguy · 07-24-2018, 12:34 PM

<remove double post> not sure why that happened.

RadicalDreamer · 07-24-2018, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by codeguy

Is it a problem, yes! Does he need to set something up? Yes!

Revenue - expenses = profit

All we know is revenue = 100k. Thats not enough information to make any decisions on.

Does he need his roof fixed, yes, and I'd be happy to help.

If he still has health insurance via the store, lets let him keep it, huh? You bankrupt the store and he looses his health insurance. Is that what you want?

Calm down.

He removed the donation link himself.

Edit: All is forgiven. I think Patrick needs help figuring something out. Any online business owners out there willing to share their expertise? I know this thread is reaching across the internet right now.

codeguy · 07-24-2018, 12:40 PM

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Since then, the store has ceased to provide any benefits,

Oh, son of a %$#@

I should read gooder. Forget what I said. Pitchforks!

codeguy · 07-24-2018, 12:46 PM

Yep, you know what, I'm blaming my lack of reading ability on the store too! Bastards messed with my Slackware, and, somehow, my ability to read!

solarfields · 07-24-2018, 12:56 PM

it's all right codeguy

q5sys · 07-24-2018, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alien Bob

If Pat takes care of the "L" series dependencies for Plasma 5 then I I have no problem to keep releasing new Plasma 5 packages from my own 'ktown' repository. I'd rather see a stable core OS than one that falls apart at the seams (or whose content is getting stale) just because Slackware is a one-man show. At the moment I am holding back on new Plasma5 releases because of the decisions I need Pat to make.

Getting rid of KDE4 and instead adding LXQT or Lumina instead of Plasma5 will still give people a nice Qt5 based desktop out of the box. Without Plasma5, Slackware will of course say good bye to some good applications like K3b, Okular, Konqueror.

I'm one of the two main developers for the Lumina Desktop. Ken is the primary, I'm the secondary. If there is anything Slackware needs from us, please let me know. Ken and I are trying to write it to be as portable as possible to other operating systems ( various BSDs and Linux Distros ). I'm an old Slackware user myself, so if there's anything we need to change, update, add, etc for better integration/fuctionality/builability on Slackware, just let me know and I'll make it happen.

On the money front... Pat, if you set up a Patron or the ability to do re-occuring PayPal donations... I'll sign up as soon as you let us know how.

Alien Bob · 07-24-2018, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by q5sys

I'm one of the two main developers for the Lumina Desktop. Ken is the primary, I'm the secondary. If there is anything Slackware needs from us, please let me know. Ken and I are trying to write it to be as portable as possible to other operating systems ( various BSDs and Linux Distros ). I'm an old Slackware user myself, so if there's anything we need to change, update, add, etc for better integration/fuctionality/builability on Slackware, just let me know and I'll make it happen.

On the money front... Pat, if you set up a Patron or the ability to do re-occuring PayPal donations... I'll sign up as soon as you let us know how.

Hi q5sys and welcome!
I offer Lumina as one of the desktop options in my Plasma variant of the Slackware Live Edition (LXQT and of course Plasma5 being the other Qt5 based choices) and I really like it for its efficiency and simplicity.