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Old 08-03-2008, 12:27 PM   #1
Mufasa
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Angry OpenSuse YAST AUGGGGH!!


Hi all,

I am working with Opensuse 10.3 (x86_64) (which seems to be somehow associated with SLES 10). I found that you could download missing packages from here: http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...s/suse/x86_64/

That is all fine and dandy except when installing using YAST, it always mentions that there are missing sub-packages. So, it cannot install without the missing subpackags.

So, I download the missing sub-packages only to find out that the missing sub-package ALSO has missing sub-packages (I hope I am making sense here). This hydra seems to go on forever!

So, I have the following questions:
Question 1: Is there a way to download ALL of the packages needed for Opensuse 10.3 from this site? The idea is to put them all into just one RPM directory and adjust YAST to look there.
Question 2: Is there a way for YAST to fill in the missing blanks from the RPM directory instead of me having to do it?

This would be so nice

Any help, hints or advice is most graciously appreciated.

TIA
 
Old 08-03-2008, 02:50 PM   #2
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Before trying to answer question be more specific what kind of package did you try to install ?
Because as long as I use suse let say 15 years now I do not know better than all the package dependencies is resolved by yast it self
Did you ever try software. opensuse.org ?
So again with package do you mean ?
 
Old 08-03-2008, 02:54 PM   #3
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I agree with you but have no solution, I keep about five repositories in my yast and even with fast internet it is a pain to wait on to download the files into YaST from all five to view.
 
Old 08-03-2008, 02:56 PM   #4
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ronlau9 try the latest hp printer driver hplip. They will drive you crazy with the dependencies. It isn't only Suse, I installed it on three different distros and they all ask for the same dependences.

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Old 08-03-2008, 03:12 PM   #5
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To summarize:

1. Suse Yast can (and does!) find dependencies, and lets you automatically download and install them (this is Good).

2. Unfortunately, Suse can't anticipate dependencies of dependencies, or dependencies of dependencies of dependencies, etc. Nor can any package manager. YAST is good, but it isn't clairvoyant ;-)

3. This is annoying under the best of circumstances; it's especially painful if you've got a slow Internet connection, or you've configured YaST to scan lots of different repositories.

4. In my experience, I've seldom (if ever) had more than two levels of dependencies. But then again, I tend to load a lot of stuff up-front, so I'm less likely to encounter the problem.

Q: What package were you originally trying to load?
Q: Could you tell us a few of the dependencies, and a few of the sub-dependencies, you encountered
<= I'm definitely curious
In my experience, this is the exception ... not the rule

SUGGESTION (for Larry Webb):
I usually just have my CD/DVD, and one "favorite" repository in my YAST list (then I manually download and install the .rpm if it isn't in one of the "standard" places). Just a thought...

Mufasa - please do let us know what specific package caused you grief...

Last edited by paulsm4; 08-03-2008 at 03:42 PM.
 
Old 08-03-2008, 03:19 PM   #6
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I agree that YaST is probably as good as they come but look at the manual installation of the latest hplip driver which does not come on a repository and you have to get from Source Forge. I had to manual load it because every time I tried automatic it refused giving me four missing files and when I tried to add them they would not load complaining missing dependencies so I do a manual load which after about three trys went. Take a look at the dependent files they have you load under manual install on Suse 10.2 or 10.3. If I remember they come from three different places.

Last edited by Larry Webb; 08-03-2008 at 03:21 PM.
 
Old 08-03-2008, 03:26 PM   #7
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Well I always use Epson printers , because it was recommended to me as the most friendly Linux printer
Never had a problem with it maybe I am just lucky
 
Old 08-04-2008, 02:54 AM   #8
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Hi again all and thanks for the responses.

Basically, I was looking at the instructions to install Oracle 11.1 (even though I will be installing 10.x - but - I thought the library requirements were the same). So, from the list of what was needed, the following was mentioned:

binutils-2.17.50.20070726-14.x86_64
compat-libstdc++-5.0.7-86.x86_64
cpp-4.2-24.x86_64
cpp42-4.2.1_20070724-17.x86_64
gcc42-32bit-4.2.1_20070724-17.x86_64
gcc42-4.2.1_20070724-17.x86_64
gcc42-c++-4.2.1_20070724-17.x86_64
glibc-2.6.1-18.x86_64
glibc-32bit-2.6.1-18.x86_64
glibc-devel-2.6.1-18.x86_64
glibc-devel-32bit-2.6.1-18.x86_64
ksh-93s-48.x86_64
libaio-0.3.104-74.x86_64
libaio-32bit-0.3.104-74.x86_64
libaio-devel-0.3.104-74.x86_64
libaio-devel-32bit-0.3.104-74.x86_64
libelf0-0.8.9-17.x86_64
libgcc42-32bit-4.2.1_20070724-17.x86_64
libgcc42-4.2.1_20070724-17.x86_64
libstdc++42-32bit-4.2.1_20070724-17.x86_64
libstdc++42-4.2.1_20070724-17.x86_64
libstdc++42-devel-32bit-4.2.1_20070724-17.x86_64
libstdc++42-devel-4.2.1_20070724-17.x86_64
make-3.81-66.x86_64
openmotif-libs-2.3.0-23.x86_64
sysstat-7.1.6-16.x86_64
unixODBC-32bit-2.2.12-55.x86_64


After going to the download site for x86_64 OpenSuse (for packages). I downloaded the ones that seemed to be "missing" from my system. I do not have access to the internet from that box. I come to the computer that does have internet access, plug in my USB drive and download the .rpms there. I then unplug it and take it to my computer (not networked) to use.

So, after gathering all that I thought I needed, I take it over to the other machine only to find that more dependencies were listed. I did not know how much further down would I have had to go :-|

Is there a way to download ALL of the files/.rpms/packages that are on the site? I think I could make it with that approach.

TIA
 
  


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