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Hi and welcome to LQ! I don't know how can be urgent such an issue, especially for us! Please, use better thread titles in the future. Regarding your issue, have you looked at http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_Help? A good starting point is always the developer's site, be it a linux distribution or a single piece of software. If you have some specific problem during or after the installation, you can always come back and explain the problem in detail.
You all really have to consider how much longer you're going to support MS's effort to destroy FOSS. Personally, I'd like to see LQ ban Suse users. If the Open Suse organization wants to exist, they should fork the code.
The steps you decry are to Suse's advantage, and I would expect a company to act in its own interests. Why not compete with Red Hat and CentOS? They bought five years of insurance against MS's IP claims. If the IP claims are baseless, it doesn't hurt anyone else, and after the five years are up, Suse doesnt' care if MS won't renew the agreement. Actually, Suse made about $300 million on the deal. And any psychological advantage is not going to snuff out distros like Debian, which doesn't have to meet the requirements of a viable business model. Even with the GPL version 3, the Suse/MS deal was explicitly permitted by grandfather clause.
The steps you decry are to Suse's advantage, and I would expect a company to act in its own interests.
There is no Suse company in the sense you describe, only Novell. Novell bought the Suse name, and evidently paid off enough of the developers to sell out the open source movement. I know that some influential developer's stood up at the time and said, No. I'm sure their stand for principle cost them something. At least they kept their self-respect.
I don't blame Novell or MS for doing whatever they need to do to destroy their competition. I do think that the Open Suse developers are traitors and enemies of the open source movement. As the stories above indicate, there is nothing to stop Novell from taking advantage of open source development, but they should be anathema to all believers in "free as in speech."
I know that some influential developer's stood up at the time and said, No. I'm sure their stand for principle cost them something.
Do you have any links or supporting evidence to back this up? Sounds like reverse FUD to me.
I don't like Novell's business practices either, but that's hardly a good reason to attack those who choose to use OpenSuse. Totally uncalled for and more along the lines of what those in the MS camp would do.
Attacking Novell is fine with me, I think they're scum, but attacking fellow Linux users over their choice of distro is just not cool.
There is no Suse company in the sense you describe, only Novell. Novell bought the Suse name, and evidently paid off enough of the developers to sell out the open source movement. I know that some influential developer's stood up at the time and said, No. I'm sure their stand for principle cost them something. At least they kept their self-respect.
I don't blame Novell or MS for doing whatever they need to do to destroy their competition. I do think that the Open Suse developers are traitors and enemies of the open source movement. As the stories above indicate, there is nothing to stop Novell from taking advantage of open source development, but they should be anathema to all believers in "free as in speech."
I believe this is nothing more then a opinion! Do you have some proof or reference? You switch in the second paragraph. What's the difference between Novell and M$ in being predatory? That's doesn't make it ethical for ether one.
Took me a while to find the early stories. The most famous developer to resign in protest of the MS/Novell alliance was, of course, Jeremy Allison. I don't recommend the Boycott Novell website. I think they tend to overstate the case, but they had the easiest recap of feelings at the time with their interview with Allison, and the accompanying commentary.
Naturally, the strength of my own comments is based in my own opinions, but that hardly means I should apologize for them. Anyone who pleases is certainly welcome to add their own.
Novell sucks, and the Open Suse team is collaborating in their determination to destroy Red Hat, etc., as well as (long term) all Linux distributions except themselves. Suse users are gleefully doing their part to bring the predatory world of MS and Novell into the Linux arena.
Why tear down a fellow GNU/Linux user? I don't care for Novell, I haven't the need to support it any longer. They have made some poor choices. As for M$, I will not defend them. They have enough money to defend their position. I have to support clients that use M$. I prefer Linux but not everyone wants to make that change to a great OS from a poor OS.
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