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Old 01-17-2020, 06:23 AM   #1
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Hi,

I am new here and I would like to know more information about Linux, what is the difference of using Linux from the other operating system? Thank you.
 
Old 01-17-2020, 06:35 AM   #2
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i only started educating myself on linux last month so sharing as a fellow linux newbie

#1 Not everything gets done/works via a few clicks in a Graphical User Interface (GUI). Sometimes in linux one has to type commands in Terminal. In Android u have Google Store but in Linux you need to have a "Repo" or PPA and most distros have at least one "Store" where u click the app you want to install while others you have to enable the repo/PPA

#2 Some apps (like gaming) aren't designed with Linux in mind first. If one wants to game stuff outside the scope of Steam linux or run Windows apps the hoops to jump thru include Wine/Playonlinux or a Windows Guest VM inside your linux host OS

#3 There is one "desktop environment" in Windows but linux has many flavours like Mate, Deepin, Cinnamon, XFCE, yada yada

#4 there are a few types of Linux such as Debian, Arch or Redhat based and most people suggest going Debian based for newbies but i found Manjaro Linux and Endeavour OS (Arch based) to be excellent for those new to linux too ^^

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Old 01-17-2020, 07:03 AM   #3
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probably you can look for the page "linux is not windows" on the net.
 
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:21 AM   #4
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1) Linux has a fairly simple internal structure so you can find out how it works, if you're interested. No one knows how Windows works!

2) Lots more choice and not just in desktops. For most types of software such as browsers or image viewers, there are multiple choices.

3) You don't have a help desk staffed by bored Indian clerks. You have a community. But to take advantage of it, you have to be prepared to cooperate and partially help yourself.

4) Most problems in Linux can be resolved. You seldom need to reinstall.

Oh yes, and Linux is free software. That means free as in free speech, not just as in free beer. Once you have Linux on your computer, you can do whatever you like with it including sharing it with your friends.
 
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:16 AM   #5
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Hi,

I am new here and I would like to know more information about Linux, what is the difference of using Linux from the other operating system? Thank you.
Welcome to LQ, Janna02

General questions are going to yield general answers, and some very good ones have already been given.

My recommendation is to explore some of those recommendations, but also to suggest that you do actually start using Linux by trying it out either with a Live BOOT USB, Live BOOT CD or DVD or a Virtual Machine, and when you have more specific questions, please ask those. We'll be happy to aid you with your learning process.

Feel free to also peruse our Site FAQ which can help you with getting around the site, as well as shaping your questions to help them be successful.

There also is a good thread discussion related to how to choose a Linux distribution.
 
Old 01-17-2020, 09:29 AM   #6
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Hi,

I am new here and I would like to know more information about Linux, what is the difference of using Linux from the other operating system? Thank you.

Hello Janna! Welcome here!


Read the article in this link:


https://noctslackv1.wordpress.com/20...rers-backpack/


That article is a bit dated, so some of the links may be dead.
 
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:10 AM   #7
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Janna02,

Welcome to LQ forums.

Yet another link:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ossible-38100/
 
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:17 PM   #8
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what is the difference of using Linux from the other operating system?
What "other" operating system?
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probably you can look for the page "linux is not windows" on the net.
yep.
https://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
 
Old 01-17-2020, 03:02 PM   #9
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1) Linux has a fairly simple internal structure so you can find out how it works, if you're interested. No one knows how Windows works!
In the past when all was a plain text file.

Then Big Corps took over GNU/Linux getting rid of GNU but keep using it.

Do you know how systemd works and what's inside its binaries?
Apart bugs :-P also if after more than 7 years from the first start of its development it should aready be "bugs free".

They are developing complexity to increase hardware requirements and let manufacturers sell new not really needed hardware but to me they will step on it.

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2) Lots more choice and not just in desktops. For most types of software such as browsers or image viewers, there are multiple choices.

3) You don't have a help desk staffed by bored Indian clerks. You have a community. But to take advantage of it, you have to be prepared to cooperate and partially help yourself.

4) Most problems in Linux can be resolved. You seldom need to reinstall.

Oh yes, and Linux is free software. That means free as in free speech, not just as in free beer. Once you have Linux on your computer, you can do whatever you like with it including sharing it with your friends.
Also as in free beer if you have enough of some search on the net corroborated by a functioning brain.
Only if for you, as for me, it's also free as in free beer you should be so polite to give a little back sharing knowledge and helping others.

IMHO

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Old 01-18-2020, 10:32 AM   #10
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In the past when all was a plain text file.

Then Big Corps took over GNU/Linux getting rid of GNU but keep using it.
What do you mean by this? Are you talking about Android/Chrome OS?
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Do you know how systemd works and what's inside its binaries?
Apart bugs :-P also if after more than 7 years from the first start of its development it should aready be "bugs free".

They are developing complexity to increase hardware requirements and let manufacturers sell new not really needed hardware but to me they will step on it.
There are still distros without systemd (Devuan, Gentoo/Funtoo, Slackware, LFS SysV, PCLinuxOS, antiX, Arch if you do some complex configuration, etc.). They're mostly not good for beginners except PCLinuxOS, but they do still exist.
 
Old 01-18-2020, 08:13 PM   #11
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What do you mean by this? Are you talking about Android/Chrome OS?
No, I'm talking about IBM and RedHat deal, and Canonical but also the weak memory duckies left in Debian after the obvious and due Devuan spin off.
But it would be too wide to clear and it would be OT

Google worths nothing in PC OS's.

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There are still distros without systemd (Devuan, Gentoo/Funtoo, Slackware, LFS SysV, PCLinuxOS, antiX, Arch if you do some complex configuration, etc.). They're mostly not good for beginners except PCLinuxOS, but they do still exist.
The problem is the herd not the lack of systemd free distro, the problem is egocentrism also in the systemd free world.

Is it so difficult to join and share the best ideas instead to reinvent everyday the wheel?

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Old 01-18-2020, 10:33 PM   #12
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In the past when all was a plain text file.

Then Big Corps took over GNU/Linux getting rid of GNU but keep using it.
I am as happy as anyone else to derail a random discussion and make it about politics, but here we have someone trying to understand what this "Linux" thing is about. How about helping OP instead? By the way, if Linux activists want Linux to take over the world, unfortunately this means also taking over enterprise computing. Thus IBM has a strong interest in Linux. You can't get out of your niche AND expect that IBM just watches Linux evolve as a pure community project. Where IBM is code for "big business".

Back to Janna02's question, there is actually more than Linux and the "other operating system". There are several OSs named FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD. There is also iOS. The main difference between Windows and iOS on one side and Linux/BSD on the other is that the latter are developed in a cooperative manner by huge communities of people. If you have the required skill, you can read the blueprints of these OSs and even contribute to them.

Keep in mind that the term "OS" is a bit vague. Does the filemanager belong to the OS? Does office software? How about the bundle of software required to connect your PC to the internet? And the browser?

Strictly speaking, Linux is the core software of your computer. Things like the filemanager, office software, internet connection software and browser are not made by the Linux community but other entities like GNU, Apache or Mozilla. However, when you get a Linux distro like Debian or Linux Mint, all this is bundled together so that you have a functioning system.

In the case of the BSDs, the term "BSD" includes the whole bundle. In the case of iOS and Windows as well, but they are developed by a single corporation instead of a community, and their blueprint ("source code") is jealously guarded and can't be studied or modified.
 
Old 01-19-2020, 12:10 AM   #13
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Back to Janna02's question, there is actually more than Linux and the "other operating system". There are several OSs named FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD. There is also iOS.
I thought we was talking about PC's OS's
iOS is not a PC OS anyway there's also ReactOS, Haiku, OSX, Solaris and clones.

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The main difference between Windows and iOS on one side and Linux/BSD on the other is that the latter are developed in a cooperative manner by huge communities of people. If you have the required skill, you can read the blueprints of these OSs and even contribute to them.
GNU/Linux was developed in a cooperative way by a community, now a big blu corp ist trying to impose rules (i.e. systemd) and community is following like a duckie.

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Keep in mind that the term "OS" is a bit vague. Does the filemanager belong to the OS? Does office software? How about the bundle of software required to connect your PC to the internet? And the browser?

Strictly speaking, Linux is the core software of your computer. Things like the filemanager, office software, internet connection software and browser are not made by the Linux community but other entities like GNU, Apache or Mozilla. However, when you get a Linux distro like Debian or Linux Mint, all this is bundled together so that you have a functioning system.
Linux is only a kernel useless by itself also for Torvalds

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I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work. This implies that I'll get something practical within a few months,

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Old 01-19-2020, 09:39 AM   #14
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> now a big blu corp ist trying to impose rules (i.e. systemd)

Just out of curiosity, can you post some verifiable citations as to the veracity of this claim?
 
Old 01-19-2020, 10:09 AM   #15
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> now a big blu corp ist trying to impose rules (i.e. systemd)

Just out of curiosity, can you post some verifiable citations as to the veracity of this claim?
Read systemd history

To you it's by chance that IBM has bought Red Hat?

Red hat was taking control of GNU/Linux f...g up the community and casually IBM have taken the control of Red Hat which no longer exists (it has been delisted from Wall Street an year ago) and now it's only a brand no longer an independent company.

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