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Old 09-23-2014, 02:06 PM   #106
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I don't hate Ubuntu (I just prefer to use other distros), but every time I see commercial software that's only sold via the Ubuntu Software Centre I want to scream.

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Old 09-23-2014, 03:14 PM   #107
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Unless your running an old Apple IIe &c...
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/...asp?st=1.&c=83
 
Old 09-23-2014, 04:08 PM   #108
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Gor0, sweet site, Thx... look at this: http://www.applelogic.org/
2$ for mine at a rummage I use it with an Epson projector.

ubuntu is only as bad as (win\mac): firefox OS, google OS, \etc.... $, $, $!!!

P.s: some try or do it for the code 'n that's kool.

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Old 10-11-2014, 01:05 AM   #109
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Well the corporate world doesn't hate it. E.g: http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/10/n...=rss_truncated

I'll keep my free (lots of commercials tho ) HULU thx.
http://www.hulu.com/black-books
 
Old 10-11-2014, 06:42 AM   #110
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Thread: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?
That's a flawed question to begin with, you know. You base it on assumption that just isn't true. Ubuntu is one of the most popular distributions around, so obviously not 'everyone' hates it.

Personally? I don't use it, but I don't hate it either. What would be the point of hating a Linux distribution? That would be just silly...

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Old 10-11-2014, 07:29 AM   #111
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well I have two installs 12.04 and 14.04 I use them to roll some packages 0ubuntu the whole pbulder is a lot of work. and the truth it is not worth it.

the package system is a nightmare. That I hate. You think all that stuff happens from just apt-get no it is people like me that spend several hours spoon feeding people that have no clue how to ./configure. but hey oh well. it is ubuntu and debian has become like that also just bloated tools that create tools that make tools. that actually never work right.
 
Old 10-11-2014, 09:02 AM   #112
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That's a flawed question to begin with, you know. You base it on assumption that just isn't true. Ubuntu is one of the most popular distributions around, so obviously not 'everyone' hates it.

Personally? I don't use it, but I don't hate it either. What would be the point of hating a Linux distribution? That would be just silly...
While "Everybody hates Ubuntu" is obviously not technically true it isn't uncommon to exaggerate for effect as a literary device and I do think it's fair to say there is a lot of animosity towards both Canonical and its product in the Linux community -- so do I think the question is a fair enough one to ask.
 
Old 10-11-2014, 09:47 PM   #113
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While "Everybody hates Ubuntu" is obviously not technically true it isn't uncommon to exaggerate for effect as a literary device and I do think it's fair to say there is a lot of animosity towards both Canonical and its product in the Linux community -- so do I think the question is a fair enough one to ask.
Sure, I know the use of 'everybody' in this context isn't meant to be taken fully literally. But like I said it's one of the most popular distributions around today. I haven't bothered to look at whether it's really -the- most popular at the moment, and besides I don't think a perfectly accurate statistic like that would be even possible. Either way, saying 'everybody hates' of something with such overwhelming popularity, is in my opinion flawed. And usually such obvious contradiction serves purposes other than starting a real conversation.

Really the more honest way of stating the intent of the thread would probably have been something like, 'Everyone please write the main reasons why you think everyone should hate Shuttleworth and boycott Ubuntu'. It doesn't ask for fair opinions. 'What are your opinions of Ubuntu, compared to other distributions?' It asks for reasons to hate. And when you start throwing hate around right from the start, you're bound to get equally strong opinions that hate your hate. It's blatantly obvious where that kind of cycle will lead.

Having said all that, I don't fault you for your own opinion. If you feel the original intent of the thread was a honest query for information to clear confusion regarding why so many people have expressed negative opinions about this particular distribution.. then by all means, it's your opinion and view. Mine simply differs from it.

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Besides, I'd hope it was obvious that my post wasn't intended to be taken with 100% rigid attitude either. It does express my real opinion though - I prefer some other distributions over Ubuntu, but I don't exactly hate Ubuntu either. It seems to have found it's target audience, which apparently is quite large.. I'm just not amongst them.

I started using Linux somewhere in mid 90s I think, so I'm used to seeing it in - shall we say - different package. My favorite window manager is fvwm, although more recently I kind of forcibly transfered to using fvwm2. I couldn't find an option in it though, to let the activated (clicked) window retain it's depth in stack of windows. This was possible in fvwm, but in fvwm2 it seems to always automatically pop on top.. which I don't like. But, this is going on a tangent.

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Old 10-14-2014, 03:38 PM   #114
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I am one more that does NOT hate Ubuntu. On the other hand, I don't like it, so see no point in running it. Note that I did experiment with Ubuntu immediately after each of the first 9 or 10 official releases, but finally decided it was never going to appeal to me, so I don't bother with trying it anymore. Glad it's still available for those that do like it, though!
 
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:31 AM   #115
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I think Ubuntu is getting better. The introduction of an official Gnome version shows that Canonical can recognise when they've got things wrong! When I tried it (see my review on this site) I was quite impressed: I think it's probably the best Gnome distro. In fact, most of the things I dislike about Ubuntu (apart from the Software Centre) are actually things I dislike about Debian.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 01:49 PM   #116
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can you link to that 'rewiew' ???
 
Old 10-15-2014, 06:07 PM   #117
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Sorry didn't read the whole thread I maybe repeating some-else posting. I don't like Ubuntu but I do like LUbuntu with Xfce desktop, I kept the LXDE for compatibility. Xfce is like puppy Linux. Some people don't like long term support of their operating systems. Some people think it is too much like Microsoft windows. Some still prefer terminal over x-windows,
 
Old 10-16-2014, 10:57 AM   #118
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can you link to that review ???
Click on Distro Reviews and Other, then search for Ubuntu Gnome. Or go to
http://www.linuxquestions.org/review...page/15/sort/7
 
Old 10-16-2014, 12:45 PM   #119
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I don't hate Ubuntu. I used it for years on my personal laptop. My media center and my wife's laptop both have Ubuntu based distros on them. I just really don't like Unity, and I used it for a long time. I also like the Arch User Repository and yaourt a whole lot more than apt-get. But that isn't an Ubuntu problem, that goes back to Debian.
 
Old 10-16-2014, 02:14 PM   #120
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"Hate" is a strong word, but Ubuntu is definitely my least-favorite distro out there (at least of the ones I've tried), for several specific reasons:

1) It's bloated
2) Unity sucks...it just does
3) Built in spy-ware - points to an ethical issue with Canonical as a whole
4) Since version 12.x, Ubuntu is the buggiest distro I've ever used. Second runner-up would be Fedora
5) I don't like apt-get. I can use it, but I don't like it. Its interface just doesn't appeal to me, and it's slower than any other package management system I've used.
6) I am vehemently against Canonical's approach to "security" that they force on their users. Not only do they default to the stupid first-user-is-an-admin-with-unlimited-sudo practice, they will BAN any user from their support forum who tells somebody how to enable the root account without including some ridiculous warnings about how it's a bad idea and they need to disable it when they're done.

So, I don't use it, and I recommend that others avoid it as well whenever I can.
 
  


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