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Old 10-31-2008, 08:27 PM   #121
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After living in Oldham for most of my life, hell will seem like paradise.
What do you and your imaginary god say about me in your conversations, bashyow? Nothing good, I hope.
nah, we just have a good laugh at oldham athletic.

he isnt concerned with non-believers. he knows that when a non-believer is on his deathbed, they will ask for him then.
 
Old 10-31-2008, 08:32 PM   #122
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Human mind has a nice ability to forget things that are no longer in use. So it'll be really hard to actually reach the limit.
I'm not buying that. Why would I be forgetful after I've reached heaven? And certainly my peers would at least be amused to see me doing the same old thing over and over every few decades with no memory of ever having done it before. Is it part of heaven to be pitied and a laughing stock?
 
Old 10-31-2008, 08:40 PM   #123
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Oldham Athletic? Not interested in football, so I can join you and god in having a laugh at them.
Ask your imaginary friend why he needed a rest on the 7th day, because maybe if he'd put a bit more effort in he could have created a better world. Why did such an omnipotent being need to rest?
As for deathbed repentance - no chance.

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Old 10-31-2008, 08:45 PM   #124
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why would you guys even think about these things?

you cant see the wood for the tree's.
 
Old 10-31-2008, 08:50 PM   #125
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I'm not buying that.
Well, can you remember, in details, every second of your life? I'd be surprised if you can.

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Why would I be forgetful after I've reached heaven?
And why should you still have capacity limits after you've reached it?
 
Old 10-31-2008, 09:03 PM   #126
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Well, can you remember, in details, every second of your life? I'd be surprised if you can.
No, I can't. But I don't think I'm redoing any experiences from my past for the first time, either.

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And why should you still have capacity limits after you've reached it?
Let's cover this again. After some period, I will know everything there is to know; or at least everything I'm allowed to know, and if I know I'm not allowed to know, then that's probably not heaven. Next, after some period, I've experienced everything there is to experience, or at least everything I'm allowed to experience, which has the same problem. So, let's grant that I've got an infinite capacity, but is there really an infinity of experiences and knowledge to attain; discounting those which are verboten, of course. How many variations of "hallelujah, praise god" can there possibly be, and how many would be enjoyable before they became just downright boring?
 
Old 10-31-2008, 09:08 PM   #127
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one word..why?

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Old 10-31-2008, 09:11 PM   #128
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Ask your imaginary friend why he needed a rest on the 7th day, because maybe if he'd put a bit more effort in he could have created a better world. Why did such an omnipotent being need to rest?
bloody hell brian, nobody works weekends. he probably thought he was entitled to put his feet up for bit.

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Old 10-31-2008, 11:48 PM   #129
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Why did such an omnipotent being need to rest?
I suspect that the ruling despot (whether priest, pharaoh, or judge) who was appointed ruler by divine proclamation (being handed a sword by some soggy tart is no basis for government) needed an excuse not to work all days as his subjects were bound to do - so it was declared that the great invisible despot needed a rest on the seventh day and therefore by divine association, the mortal despot also deserves such a rest even if only as a symbolism to remind the masses of the rest deserved by the great invisible despot.
 
Old 11-01-2008, 05:20 AM   #130
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he knows that when a non-believer is on his deathbed, they will ask for him then.
O RLY?!

Why is it that you theists cant grasp the fact that eternal life would be a *torture*, not a gift!

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bloody hell brian, nobody works weekends. he probably thought he was entitled to put his feet up for bit.
It always amazes me how people saddle their god(s) with human characteristics when it suits them.
bashyow, the point here is: why would an *omnipotent* being (which in case you are forgetting means ALL POWERFUL) need to rest? Omnipotent beings, by definition CANT ever feel tired, because their power is supposedly infinite.

So what does this lead up to:

sky-daddy needed to rest ==> sky-daddy isnt omnipotent ==> sky-daddy isnt a god

Yeah thats right. A being that needs to rest and can be defeated by iron chariots is definitely not a deity.

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Old 11-01-2008, 06:07 AM   #131
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bloody hell brian, nobody works weekends. he probably thought he was entitled to put his feet up for bit.
Nah, he's just a lazy bugger, a cowboy builder who churns out an inferior product, then sits back watching his pets, Adam and Eve, playing in his garden. "Hey, you two! Keep away from that ****ing tree!"
 
Old 11-01-2008, 06:15 AM   #132
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Why is it that you theists cant grasp the fact that eternal life would be a *torture*, not a gift!
I think it would only be torture if you were in pain - or you had to put up with that awful neighbor you had back on earth ...

Otherwise it would be fascinating to see the world change - civilizations and species come and go - possibly see humans extinguish themselves and, as Mark Twain would say, the lizards take over. Personally I'll vote for the cockroaches and flies - those damned pests seem immortal. Then again there would be those many years as you watch the sun change from green to red and you'll be vaporized (but still alive) as the sun envelops the earth.

Hmm ... OK, maybe eternity is a bad deal - but a few thousand years would be pretty cool. Then again, with an eternity you can drift through the universe and explore other galaxies!
 
Old 11-01-2008, 06:59 AM   #133
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Presumably, you would have the entire Universe to observe - not just this insignificant speck called Earth.
 
Old 11-01-2008, 08:52 AM   #134
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"And my favorite part about Humpty Dumpty was, "all the King's horses and all the King's men, couldn't put Humpty back together again." Thats because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no god, not one, never was." --George Carlin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
Ahh, that's where you're wrong!

There was a Humpty Dumpty, although it wasn't an egg.

Humpty Dumpty was a type of cannon, that fell off the fortified wall of Colchester during the English civil war!

The cannon was made out of cast iron and shattered when it hit the floor.

As far as God is concerned, sorry to disapoint bashyow but I am also an atheist

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Old 11-01-2008, 04:17 PM   #135
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There was a Humpty Dumpty, although it wasn't an egg.
Are you sure that's not just Colchester council looking to egg-jack the riddle? We need a historian to find out where the first references to HD as a gun appeared and also when the first references to the riddle appeared.
 
  


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