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View Poll Results: UNIX is better than WINDOWS
what?HELLO.i am UNIX. the best! 605 68.52%
whooa, wait a minute. Windows is BETTER than UNIX 48 5.44%
hoo-boy..i don't like both. 64 7.25%
errr...i don't know, what is UNIX afterall? 11 1.25%
windows?never heard of it... 155 17.55%
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Old 08-09-2006, 11:01 AM   #361
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven
I may as well comment, since I started this thread.
You started this? I believe I started this, and it's odd you posted right after me. I haven't replied on here practically since the day I actually started the post. I had no idea this was going to go on for several pages. I was even more of a noob before and spoke my mind about linux VS windows.
Personally, I still love linux.
but anyway,
more to the current topic, I for one don't care or need for linux to overrule windows.
I just want companies to know we're around, and that they make such hardware/software for linux as well.
It'd be nice to see something like,

"Call of Duty, now available for Windows 2000/XP; and linux OS- Some supported systems include Suse, Mandriva, Red Hat*; and also supports (Mac systems)

*This will most likely work under other systems (or something like that)
 
Old 08-09-2006, 11:13 AM   #362
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I want it to take M$ over myself. The internet would be a better place without it.


After last night I would be almost willing to agree with that statement. I called to activate a laptop that I was repairing and it was just frustrating. I believe this activiation is BS and one change such as a motherboard will cause it to unactivate.
 
Old 08-09-2006, 11:58 AM   #363
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I believe this activiation is BS and one change such as a motherboard will cause it to unactivate.
Like I said in another topic,

At the start of using linux, it was not intended to be my primary system, or the only system. It simply started off as a system to get away from windows and the activation bull, and a chance to play clan bombers and lbreakout2


I was so tired of the activations because of one little thing. A computer goes bad, I reformat it, and boom, you must activate the PC again. A change in hardware? You have to activate.
Linux doesn't have that, and being on linux was like a vacation from the typical ol' bs from MS.
 
Old 08-09-2006, 12:08 PM   #364
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I still use Windows for my games. Other than that linux does everything else just fine. I just can't wait to see what Happens between the European Union and Microsoft bout. It is becoming very interesting. Hopefully that will make windows change some of their policies.(But that is only wishful thinking.) But the funny part is that it was supposed to be a piracy detourant but I still see hacked versions out there.
 
Old 08-09-2006, 12:35 PM   #365
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I only used Windows for games, until I got mine to go through linux. I'm out on Call of Duty 2 sadly, but for some reason, it wasn't working anymore under windows.
I could reformat the PC, a clean start, install things properly, best you can, and COD2 still froze while playing it.
 
Old 08-09-2006, 04:57 PM   #366
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Thank you for all your efforts in trying to keep all these things together XavierP.
You're welcome

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Perhaps we should have a sticky thread titled "Going back to Windows? Click here" or something along those lines.
That would be lovely, except no one reads the ... blessed ... things. Otherwise ther'd be no need for me to merge errant threads

Last edited by XavierP; 08-09-2006 at 04:58 PM.
 
Old 08-09-2006, 07:24 PM   #367
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That would be lovely, except no one reads the ... blessed ... things. Otherwise ther'd be no need for me to merge errant threads ;)
I suppose the problem with the stickies is that they never address the
individuals problems ;} ... if the sticky was titled
"To solve such-and-suchs problem with this-or-that software on exactly-
this-hardware running the not-so-unpopular-distro" ...

maybe (but only maybe) such-and-such would read them? Not very likely,
though, because then such-and-such would have used a search engine in
the first place. ;}




Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 08-10-2006, 12:21 PM   #368
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Exactly. Take the title of this thread (thread title creted by me to be as descriptive as possible) and yet I still have to merge the threads.

Maybe we should instigate an entrance exam for new members. Centred around the search function....
 
Old 08-11-2006, 05:10 PM   #369
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Windows Home edition is very poor when it comes to changing hardware, but windows xp pro is actually better. Eventhough i am using xp pro besides linux i still have activated it several times and have even had to call microsoft for a new license, because the activation through the net didnt work.

I know about other people who are really tired of viruses, pop-ups, spyware etc. When im travling home to my parents i usually hear "its going slow" and it always is a spyware or a few times viruses. One of my friend's laptop had a lot of spyware and viruses, i recommanded linux and installed it after they said it would be ok. After that i have never heard complaints other than that it takes a little time to get used to. But now after probably a year, they would never change back to windows Also they like the free software and stuff and so do I.

One problem is that i cannot run the only game i play on windows, i install cedega and the game but its lagging a lot. That and to watch some lecture videos which are using streaming through windows media with drm is the only two reasons to reboot the computer into windows.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JBailey742
Like I said in another topic,

At the start of using linux, it was not intended to be my primary system, or the only system. It simply started off as a system to get away from windows and the activation bull, and a chance to play clan bombers and lbreakout2


I was so tired of the activations because of one little thing. A computer goes bad, I reformat it, and boom, you must activate the PC again. A change in hardware? You have to activate.
Linux doesn't have that, and being on linux was like a vacation from the typical ol' bs from MS.

Last edited by hondo; 08-11-2006 at 05:14 PM.
 
Old 08-11-2006, 05:42 PM   #370
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Windows Home edition is very poor when it comes to changing hardware, but windows xp pro is actually better. Eventhough i am using xp pro besides linux i still have activated it several times and have even had to call microsoft for a new license, because the activation through the net didnt work.

I know about other people who are really tired of viruses, pop-ups, spyware etc. When im travling home to my parents i usually hear "its going slow" and it always is a spyware or a few times viruses. One of my friend's laptop had a lot of spyware and viruses, i recommanded linux and installed it after they said it would be ok. After that i have never heard complaints other than that it takes a little time to get used to. But now after probably a year, they would never change back to windows Also they like the free software and stuff and so do I.

i hear that from everybody these days: the slowness, the spyware, viruses, update hassles, etc. i know people who have one computer in the house for like four people, both them and their kids, it's running windows, and they have to take entire weekends just to do virus scans and maintenance when their computer slows down to a crawl or something eventually blows up. "i might not be available with email for a few days because our computer is bogged down with spyware and we have to fix it." and i think it's only going to get worse, despite M$'s boasts of vista being the "most secure OS ever."

the only thing windows has going for it is making everyone use it by force, as all the DRM crap starts to get more widespread. i followed a link from a blog the other day to some media site, and i couldn't watch anything because the site said it didn't have DRM support for linux. i didn't really care because i never go to that site anyway, but it put a shudder down my spine envisioning what is very likely to happen when more and more sites starting using that crap and you can't access anything because the web doesn't work on linux anymore.
 
Old 08-11-2006, 05:55 PM   #371
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Yeah the whole activation thing is really lame. It's pretty much a slap in the face for their legitimate users that support them. That's pretty typical of MS though. They've got that used car salesman mentality.
 
Old 08-12-2006, 05:47 AM   #372
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Linux Education

In terms of purchasing cost and required resources MS Windows just cannot compete with Linux and in this context Linux fills, or could fill, an ever-increasing information poverty gap. But as I see it the problem is one of education. Most schools and the free local training centers (I talk from the UK) teach on the basis of MS Windows to the exclusion of all else.

Consequently, the vast majority never regard PC computing as anything else but operating MS Windows and relative products and their, or their parents, purchase of a system follows accordingly.

I'm convinced that if Linux and OS products featured more in educational establishments and users were aware of them from an early stage MS Windows would be seen by many as an expensive and not altogether viable proposition. It would also introduce many youngsters to an affordable and exiting world of real computing.

Linux provides a choice and lets face it, its a choice the MS have done their damnedest to to deny the world. But the problems now facing the world and the need for solutions best, or possibly could only be obtained, by computers are just too great to be left in the hands of Microsoft. A fact that governments and the educational establishments need to wake up to fast. Getting off the MS-Windows bandwagon and encouraging the use of Linux in educational establishments would certainly help in engendering the early interest of those who might then go on to provide the innovations needed. Computer literacy means more than messing about with MS Windows and our kids deserve the opportunity to be shown that.
 
Old 08-12-2006, 09:35 AM   #373
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Not really. A motorbike is an alternative to a car, but it's not a replacement.
If you sell your car and buy a motorbike, you have replaced your car with a motorbike. Similarly if you remove Windows from your PC and install Linux in its place then you have replaced Windows with Linux.

If Linux is being used somewhere that Windows was previously used the Linux has replaced Windows.
 
Old 08-12-2006, 11:28 AM   #374
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Now you're just nitpicking, hand of fate. Yes, oneandoneis2 is making a non-existent semantic distinction (between alternative and replacement), but the point remains that while a motorbike replaces your car, it does not serve all the same functions a car does. It serves the main function (getting from point A to point B) but not the others. Substituting a Honda Civic with a Toyota Tercel is more of a direct replacement than substituting a Honda Civic with a Harley-Davidson.

Likewise, Linux and Windows serve the same main function (allow user to perform some generic tasks on a computer), but they are--like car and motorbike--radically different in their approaches, values, and needed skill sets.
 
Old 08-12-2006, 04:36 PM   #375
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If you sell your car and buy a motorbike, you have replaced your car with a motorbike. Similarly if you remove Windows from your PC and install Linux in its place then you have replaced Windows with Linux.

If Linux is being used somewhere that Windows was previously used the Linux has replaced Windows.
Actually I agree with this. You can't run both at the same time anyway.

 
  


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