The All New Linux vs Windows MegaSuperThread

IsaacKuo · 07-27-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hondo

What would be nice is if you have desktop environments that were updated on the system youre actually using.

That's indeed how things work with, say, Ubuntu or Gentoo or Debian Etch/Sid. It's only Debian Stable which provides an unshifting platform with an emphasis on system constancy.

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I would also like to use xgl you know, but then i think you at least have to have the latest desktop environment and again that would be kind of your whole-evening and next-day kind of thing i guess.

If you want to play around with the latest experimental technologies like XGL, then you've got to accept the obvious risks of hosing your system.

Apparently, you hosed your Ubuntu system by mixing in Debian software repositories in your sources.list. You can't blame Linux developers for that--it's something which simply was never meant to be done. No one recommends it; no one is testing it; no one is troubleshooting it to fix any problems.

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I would without a doubt use debian 3.1 sarge if it came with updated desktop environments.

You could do what I and many other Debian users did--switch or upgrade to Debian Etch. Or you could reinstall Ubuntu and this time remember to not hose your system by trying to use Debian software repositories.

isuck@linux · 07-27-2006, 12:50 PM

linux if not user friendly. that's it. you can corroborate it this way....
put a monkey in front of debian and then put your father in front of the same debian.... you will have the same result. so there are 2 possible outcomes.... or your father is as stupid as the monkey or linux is not user friendly.

rshaw · 07-27-2006, 12:58 PM

that says more about debian then it does the monkey. it's not the monkeys fault debian is _not_ (debian fanboys, don't bother) user friendly

XavierP · 07-27-2006, 01:01 PM

This thread has now been merged into the Linux vs Windows Megathread at the top of the General forum, where you will discover that this particular issue evokes the same question and answer session every. single. bleeding. time.

isuck@linux · 07-27-2006, 01:03 PM

i use debian, it is not user friendly, but the only reason takes us back to the roots of this post..... linux is not user friendly.

hondo · 07-27-2006, 01:08 PM

A little off topic: I will download etch/sid and give it a try, but isnt this a beta release.. What do you think about etch and how is it to use, buggy or ok..

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Originally Posted by IsaacKuo

That's indeed how things work with, say, Ubuntu or Gentoo or Debian Etch/Sid. It's only Debian Stable which provides an unshifting platform with an emphasis on system constancy.

If you want to play around with the latest experimental technologies like XGL, then you've got to accept the obvious risks of hosing your system.

Apparently, you hosed your Ubuntu system by mixing in Debian software repositories in your sources.list. You can't blame Linux developers for that--it's something which simply was never meant to be done. No one recommends it; no one is testing it; no one is troubleshooting it to fix any problems.

You could do what I and many other Debian users did--switch or upgrade to Debian Etch. Or you could reinstall Ubuntu and this time remember to not hose your system by trying to use Debian software repositories.

blackzone · 07-27-2006, 01:10 PM

I agree with OP. Everything works on window.

Problem is every developer ensure their product run on microsoft but not necessary linux.

It's not about the quality of the OS. Linux population share is just too small.

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An OS should help you save time on work, not waste time working the OS...right?

Matir · 07-27-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blackzone

I agree with OP. Everything works on window.

Problem is every developer ensure their product run on microsoft but not necessary linux.

It's not about the quality of the OS. Linux population share is just too small.

So basically, the problem is the software developers. I agree. That's why my money doesn't go to any Windows software developers.

IsaacKuo · 07-27-2006, 01:23 PM

I find Debian Etch to be stable in use. You could consider Debian Testing to be a "beta release" for Debian Stable, but by this standard the current version of Ubuntu is also "beta" and Gentoo is in "permanent beta" status.

If you want the latest versions of software, then you have to accept that some of it will be "beta release" quality or worse. At least with Debian, you have a choice between Stable, Unstable, and a compromise between them (Testing).

Matir · 07-27-2006, 01:26 PM

I personally have no problem with Linux's user friendliness. It's always worked exactly as I expect it to. Additionally, this thread originally seemed like it might have some technical content, but that seems unlikely now.

Matir · 07-27-2006, 01:26 PM

Moved: This thread is more suitable in General and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.

hondo · 07-27-2006, 01:31 PM

Ok, thanks for the information. I like that debian is flexible

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Originally Posted by IsaacKuo

I find Debian Etch to be stable in use. You could consider Debian Testing to be a "beta release" for Debian Stable, but by this standard the current version of Ubuntu is also "beta" and Gentoo is in "permanent beta" status.

If you want the latest versions of software, then you have to accept that some of it will be "beta release" quality or worse. At least with Debian, you have a choice between Stable, Unstable, and a compromise between them (Testing).

XavierP · 07-27-2006, 02:59 PM

Another candidate for the Megathread methinks

archtoad6 · 07-27-2006, 04:54 PM

XavierP, did you notice that your link is broken?

Probably as a result of thread combination.

I reported this as a bug, hope others agree that it is.

XavierP · 07-27-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by archtoad6

XavierP, did you notice that your link is broken?

Not any more, it isn't

Thanks