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AFAIK, in daily life you never have a complete information about something and have to fill the blanks yourself. If you think it is important to know everything before acting, then the best course of action would be to do nothing at all - every thing you do/say can indirectly harm somebody, and you'll never have complete info about situation.
Thank you for this post, SigTerm. I would add that if you think that an online forum discussion is endangering someone's life, then joining that discussion, even to point this out, is not the right thing to do. (The correct thing to do, instead, would be to contact the site's owner so that he can take care of the liability issues that the posters are exposing him to). I have not felt, so far, that this was the case.
Guys,Could we consider that we can keep the posts specific to the problem of the starter instead of talking about what in front of sucidal are petty issues?
If I am correct the appropriate way to handle PM issue is :
If you dont like the PM, ignore it.If you feel its offensive or repeated, report to mods.
well, i am on a mobile device and a lot of medication...
If the current meds aren't doing the trick any more, then get back to the doc and get onto something (legal) that does.
I tend to believe that everyone has the right to speed up expiration under very specific circumstances (e.g. if in incredible pain at the end of terminal illness), but don't do anything crazy over a b%^&$. The opposite sex will never save you. That's your job, and you can pull yourself up off the floor and do it.
Start exercising regularly. If you can't afford to join a gym, then do planks, lunges, pushups, and pullups at your home. And jog for 10 minutes each day (very slowly increasing to 30 minutes). Don't just do it once or twice, or ten times. Do the resistance training three times a week for the next fifty years. Watch your mood magically improve. Watch your looks improve. Watch your confidence improve to the point of brashness at times. I'm not flapping my gums here because I find it amusing. This is real stuff. If I didn't exercise regularly, I would have a difficult time dispelling bad feelings.
Get your meds prescription corrected, start exercising, and then get out of the house. Join activity clubs and volunteer at the local animal shelter. (There are a lot of sentient mammals who would appreciate your help.) You can always make yourself useful and wanted if you try.
I'm going to stop posting in this thread, but I hope you will read this and take it seriously. It is within YOUR power to make this all right, so get on the ball, man.
1. I've been in love with her (or my image of her, as somebody pointed out) for like forever. The first time I met her (which is a story in itself) I knew I was gonna marry this one. Then we didn't meet for almost an year. Then we bumped into each other one day, and talked life we've known each other all our lives. When she called me for the first time, we talked for nearly three hours until her battery ran out. This wasn't a "normal" relationship at all. From the intimacy (which at least I thought) was involved, I assumed that we'ed end up together at the end. Then the fighting started. I admit that I was clingy and needy, but I respected the boundaries that she set for me. But she wouldn't let me call her even once a day. I would call her and tell her that I loved her and that I would die without her, but she wouldn't care. I understand that I invested my emotions in the wrong person, or perhaps she was right and I was wrong all along. Maybe I am not worth somebody's love after all.
The question is, is there a solution here or what? I've tried medication, therapy and whatnot. What else can I do
The question is, is there a solution here or what? I've tried medication, therapy and whatnot. What else can I do?
As it has been suggested:
1. Getting busy
2. Doing physical exercises (I agree with anomie - it works miracles)
3. Not dwelling on her.
There's not much we can do for you. You need to WANT to move on with your life. Writing how you met her/describing your relationship with her/generally writing/thinking about her is making it harder for you to move on.
record a song about your doomed romance and lost love
put the song on Myspace
wait for emo girls to be so moved by the song that they contact you
...
PROFIT!
(and find things to laugh about. It's the best medicine).
More seriously, now that you're free of that relationship, you do have other things (like a job or hobby) to divert your energy into, right? If not, get one. Prayer and exercise have been suggested and they'll both work fine. So would learning more about how to get the most out of Linux. And, of course, composing more music.
Then the fighting started. I admit that I was clingy and needy, but I respected the boundaries that she set for me. But she wouldn't let me call her even once a day. I would call her and tell her that I loved her and that I would die without her ...
Okay, man ... you can't do that. Women are like insurance companies: the more obvious your need for them, the more likely you are to get dropped.
For long-term, serious, marriage-type situations, women want a man who is just fine without them but is willing to let the woman step in and become the all-important centerpiece in an already complete life.
For non-serious, "fun" types of situations, they want guys who don't give a crap about them and won't notice when they decide to do something else.
In both situations, they want a guy with confidence in himself and self-esteem.
So ... step one is forget about women. Pining after any one woman or women in general will simply continue to move you deeper and deeper into the "no poon" zone.
Step two? Learn to like yourself, your single self, the way you really are. If you base your self-worth or how you behave on women, then you'll never be happy, even if you somehow find yourself in an awesome relationship with the most amazing woman ever.
Step three? Decide what you really want in a woman. Don't compromise.
Step four is the last one. Stick to your wants in a woman. Be picky. Reject a woman ten minutes into the first date if she falls short of any of your criteria; just turn around and take her home. Believe it or not, this is a huge turn-on for most women. They want a man who knows what he wants and is out to get it, not some lovesick kid who'll do or say whatever it takes to win their approval.
Once I got to step four, I wasted a lot less time dating people who weren't right for me or who I wasn't right for.
Example First Date Conversation
Me: "So ... You smoke pot?"
Her: (Aghast) "Umm, no ... Drugs are for losers."
Me: "Ahh. Well, I'm sorry, then. This clearly isn't going to work out, because you're a self-righteous prude."
Her: (Going into self-righteous prude mode) "Well ... You can just take me home, then."
Me: (Nods for her to look out the window.) "We're already there. Get out."
Another, Circa 2007
(We get into the car in front of her house.)
Me: "So ... You like President Bush?"
Her: "YES! I feel so safe with him in ..."
(Screech ... the car stops after moving all of six feet)
Me: "Get out."
You can try to prolong things by jumping through a woman's hoops, but you're just wasting your time. If things aren't meant to be, then they just aren't, and they never will be.
As you might expect, I married the next girl I made it three dates with after adopting this technique. She's the girl of my dreams, and she basically had to be to survive my "screen" dating that long.
If you're a guy out for meaningless, casual sexual encounters, then you already know that these techniques are not for you.
It's also one of the easier languages in which to compose poetry and song lyrics.
Why?
Everything rhymes in Spanish. It's like the anti-German.
I beg to disagree...
Japanese is one of the best sounding languages IMHO... and there are subtle variations of tone and accent which convey entirely different meanings to the same words...
Japanese is one of the best sounding languages IMHO... and there are subtle variations of tone and accent which convey entirely different meanings to the same words...
Okay, man ... you can't do that. Women are like insurance companies: the more obvious your need for them, the more likely you are to get dropped.
For long-term, serious, marriage-type situations, women want a man who is just fine without them but is willing to let the woman step in and become the all-important centerpiece in an already complete life.
For non-serious, "fun" types of situations, they want guys who don't give a crap about them and won't notice when they decide to do something else.
In both situations, they want a guy with confidence in himself and self-esteem.
So ... step one is forget about women. Pining after any one woman or women in general will simply continue to move you deeper and deeper into the "no poon" zone.
Step two? Learn to like yourself, your single self, the way you really are. If you base your self-worth or how you behave on women, then you'll never be happy, even if you somehow find yourself in an awesome relationship with the most amazing woman ever.
Step three? Decide what you really want in a woman. Don't compromise.
Step four is the last one. Stick to your wants in a woman. Be picky. Reject a woman ten minutes into the first date if she falls short of any of your criteria; just turn around and take her home. Believe it or not, this is a huge turn-on for most women. They want a man who knows what he wants and is out to get it, not some lovesick kid who'll do or say whatever it takes to win their approval.
Once I got to step four, I wasted a lot less time dating people who weren't right for me or who I wasn't right for.
Example First Date Conversation
Me: "So ... You smoke pot?"
Her: (Aghast) "Umm, no ... Drugs are for losers."
Me: "Ahh. Well, I'm sorry, then. This clearly isn't going to work out, because you're a self-righteous prude."
Her: (Going into self-righteous prude mode) "Well ... You can just take me home, then."
Me: (Nods for her to look out the window.) "We're already there. Get out."
Another, Circa 2007
(We get into the car in front of her house.)
Me: "So ... You like President Bush?"
Her: "YES! I feel so safe with him in ..."
(Screech ... the car stops after moving all of six feet)
Me: "Get out."
You can try to prolong things by jumping through a woman's hoops, but you're just wasting your time. If things aren't meant to be, then they just aren't, and they never will be.
As you might expect, I married the next girl I made it three dates with. She's the girl of my dreams, and she basically had to be to survive my "screen" dating that long.
Good luck, man. Heartache sucks.
Agree to 200%...
Plus, strengthen yourself ... beyond limits... its all in the mind, and in the soul...
Train yourself to the point of severe physical breakdown... there is no danger in doing this... human HW has protection mechanisms... but be willing to do this anyway,
Train your spirit... meditate... deeply. To the point of separating your mind from your body... get in contact with your inner self, beyond any sensorial input...
Train your mind... excell in Chess as well as you do in TaeKwonDo, or Kyokushin Kai... read Philosophy, learn the Bhuddist principles of respect by everything and by yourself...
Do it as if it was the last day in your life...
We are all falling leaves... do not forget this...
The question is, is there a solution here or what? I've tried medication, therapy and whatnot. What else can I do
There is a solution to every problem you encounter with, provided you are ready to look for it. God helps those, who help themselves.
Dont expect others here on the internet forum to do everything for you. They can not. They can suggest. Implementing those is in your hands. And you have got enough solutions, if you just keep on reminding yourself of her and dont want to move on with life, it will fsck you bad. If you really want to get better, get on with life, move on. As has already been said, exercise, get out of your four walls do something like volunteering or better get job and make yourself busy. Else keep crying and getting fscked by life
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