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I have absolutely no idea about whatever you meant here.
He's saying that you don't care about DJ Shali, and that your disagreements with him (k3lt01) have been an attempt to protect your ego from a perceived slight.
This is what he meant to write:
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If, Anisha and dugan, you were serious, you'd be grilling them on their reasons too. But you're not serious. You think you've been chipped for comments you made and you're arking up against the person you think chipped you.
He's saying that you don't care about DJ Shali, and that your disagreements with him (k3lt01) have been an attempt to protect your ego from a perceived slight.
Brilliant translation Dugan I am tried of arguing with him and I don't how, whatever I have said shows that I don't care about the OP?
well, i am on a mobile device and a lot of medication, so not much scrolling and sense goes into my posts at this point
She is getting engaged to someone she loves, right. That guy is getting engaged to someone he loves. Everybody everywhere is falling in love and living happy, healthy lives. And me? I have been utterly and completely rejected.
I have been hurting all my life. I always thought that someday I would meet somebody like me and then everything that I been through would at least have some sense of purpose, you know. She said she had been hurting too. And it was so great for a while. But now all my philosophy of life has been reduced to nothing. All that I've been through amounts to nothing. This time too, all this blood, all these tears, nothing.
I was mistaken, by the way. He's an engineer, apparently. And of course she would choose him. Why would she choose somebody like me? Seriously man, I'm such a bloody loser! For God's sake man, I feed on bits and pieces of sympathy from strangers! My own family cares nothing for me. Did I mention that my sisters went to her engagement?
People, those of you who have families and people who love them, cherish your life. Remember, there are those who pine away into nothingness because they shall never have what you take for granted.
She's engaged She hates me. And yet whenever I sit still for a moment, I think of her and him, and engagement, marriage, kids, growing old, leading happy lives together. There is no logic here; no errno is defined; strerror will return NULL. Point is, there is no solution. Even my doctor says that time will make me feel better, but the question is, will I be here when that time comes?
but they were not breaking any rules and neither can they be reported for a bit of dry humor in /General, nor I had grilled anyone else (Discussion about a thing shouldn't be labeled as grilling)! Huh!
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After this post I'm finished with this thread. I made one comment about a thread going off track and becoming a pooling of ignorance. Look where it is now.
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Again, this is a public forum. People posting in this thread have yet not broken any LQ rules. I am not saying that humor is appropriate here but its like, you stand in the middle of a busy road then blame the vehicles if they hit you???
What a stupid comment. I never said anything about rules. I'm talking about common sense here. DJ come here for help, not for someone to come along and berate him for his feelings. Read through the thread and count off how many times he is called an idiot or something (i.e. not a man, stupid). How is this helpful? We are talking about someones LIFE aren't we? How is a group of cyber associates making comments like what I have read here helpful? DJ is not an idiot, he is a man, he is worthwhile, he has a life to live for, yet you seem to think off the cuff smart alec comments that say otherwise are fine.
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Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul
I have absolutely no idea about whatever you meant here.
Dugan is pretty close with his post above, glad your finally reading things, although even without correct punctuation and grammar it isn't difficult to see what was being said.
@DJ, I urge you to do as your doctor suggests. Take time out and get better. Good luck!
What a stupid comment. I never said anything about rules. I'm talking about common sense here.
I meant because "they" didn't break any rules, they can't be reported nor they can be bashed around. You get all sorts of people on public forums, and you can't expect all of them to have common sense at all times. You have to filter what you read.
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Mr. OP, I think you are taking a bit too further. She might nor like, she might hate you, but then it is just one person. Forget and forgive and move on. Shes just out of million. It does not make your life worthless. And dont prove yourself loser. Get a life for yourself. And why do you think your family does not care for you? Just because they went for her engagement? Comon, be a man. And what he is, an engineer or a doctor, does not matter. What matters is that, that girl loves this guy and he loves her.
And please dont think that because I am writing this, I have got lot of girls in my life. No. I am single as you are. And enjoying the life as well. And I am not paid huge amounts as well. I am not rich, I dont own my car. I dont a house.
DJ come here for help, not for someone to come along and berate him for his feelings. Read through the thread and count off how many times he is called an idiot or something (i.e. not a man, stupid). How is this helpful? We are talking about someones LIFE aren't we? How is a group of cyber associates making comments like what I have read here helpful? DJ is not an idiot, he is a man, he is worthwhile, he has a life to live for, yet you seem to think off the cuff smart alec comments that say otherwise are fine.
@DJ, I urge you to do as your doctor suggests. Take time out and get better. Good luck!
I am not sure what he thought when he came here for help. He has been a member of LQ for long enough to know that this is primarily a technical forum and even in /General, most of the question are technical in nature. And you should understand that people here are not trained for counseling suicidal minds. You understand that, dont you? We can talk to OP or give our opinions but cant replace a medical help from a professional. He has to do it himself. And no one here has actually taken the thread too off road.
And yes, I accept I said him a "be a man". And I stand by it. Have you actually read the posts by him. He himself states that the girl loves the guy she is getting engaged to and the guy loves her. Where does he fit into? If she does not care about OP, he should stop caring about her as well. And stop thinking about her too. Get himself a life and a girl. Thinking about her would not solve. Neither would hurting himself nor killing himself. Taking a medical help should though.
My posts that you have quoted are constructive criticisms. It is obvious some here do not know or understand the cultures of the Sub Continent.
IMO, you're derailing the thread - instead of sticking to original post, you're starting to argue whose reply is useful.
In my opinion, it is a waste of time.
If you don't like a reply, then I'd advise to write a better one.
If you think that reply is offensive, there's "report" button.
IF you dislike *particular* reply, then it will be better either to ignore it (the better way), or criticize this particular reply (which means derailing the thread into pillow-fight and is impolite towards the OP) instead of vaguely talking about "some people".
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...We don't know...
AFAIK, in daily life you never have a complete information about something and have to fill the blanks yourself.
If you think it is important to know everything before acting, then the best course of action would be to do nothing at all - every thing you do/say can indirectly harm somebody, and you'll never have complete info about situation.
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Originally Posted by k3lt01
...we can make a good guess considering...
And while you keep saying "we don't know", you still rely on guesses and assumptions, so you aren't really different from other people.
The safest approach here would be to visit a doc (which OP already did) and relax (which simply needs time).
There's really nothing else to talk about.
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The people like this
are a problem.
Use the mighty "report" button.
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Originally Posted by k3lt01
...Yes I believe this is a situation that is that serious...
This is a bit offtopic, but...
I believe that people should help themselves instead of trying to seek empathy - empathy doesn't fix the problem, and there are other ways to fix your mood without help of other people. When you feel suicidal, in majority of countries there are multiple easier ways to get help instead of using the internet. As for internet, I already gave link to samaritans, and those guys are helpful (plus their volunteers are supposed to be trained in such matter). The OP already have everything he needs to get help.
55 million people die every year (104.6 people per minute), and from them 870000 die because of suicide(roughly 100 people per hour). That's way too many, and as a result, it would be much more efficient to rely on yourself instead of asking/waiting for help.
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Originally Posted by k3lt01
I'm talking about common sense here.
Different people has different common sense (due to cultural, religious, social, and moral differences). There is no agreed upon standard. It would be a mistake to think that your version of "common sense" is the "right one".
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Originally Posted by k3lt01
Dugan is pretty close with his post above, glad your finally reading things, although even without correct punctuation and grammar it isn't difficult to see what was being said.
He's an engineer, apparently. And of course she would choose him. Why would she choose somebody like me? Seriously man, I'm such a bloody loser!
Am I sounding dumb? But I think, you should get up, get the degree you are currently pursuing, get a masters degree after that, then apply for a job, and stand on your own legs. I am sure you won't feel like a "bloody loser" after that! It is difficult right now to think and concentrate on all those lines, I understand, but there is no other choice. Get up now!
She is getting engaged to someone she loves, right. That guy is getting engaged to someone he loves. Everybody everywhere is falling in love and living happy, healthy lives. And me? I have been utterly and completely rejected.
I have been hurting all my life. I always thought that someday I would meet somebody like me and then everything that I been through would at least have some sense of purpose, you know. She said she had been hurting too. And it was so great for a while. But now all my philosophy of life has been reduced to nothing. All that I've been through amounts to nothing. This time too, all this blood, all these tears, nothing.
I was mistaken, by the way. He's an engineer, apparently. And of course she would choose him. Why would she choose somebody like me? Seriously man, I'm such a bloody loser! For God's sake man, I feed on bits and pieces of sympathy from strangers! My own family cares nothing for me. Did I mention that my sisters went to her engagement?
People, those of you who have families and people who love them, cherish your life. Remember, there are those who pine away into nothingness because they shall never have what you take for granted.
She's engaged She hates me. And yet whenever I sit still for a moment, I think of her and him, and engagement, marriage, kids, growing old, leading happy lives together. There is no logic here; no errno is defined; strerror will return NULL. Point is, there is no solution. Even my doctor says that time will make me feel better, but the question is, will I be here when that time comes?
You cannot know if they actually love one another or how they will turn out in the end. Many people say they are in love and then divorce after a few years.
I do sympathize with you, because indeed as far as I can remember most of my life has been pain, suffering, fear, uncertainty ... but I try not to think of these things. If I were to think of these things all at once I would probably have a nervous breakdown, so I always try to think of positive things, and of a future goal. The past cannot be changed, so there's no sense in dwelling on it for too long.
It's true that it would be great to find a "soul-mate", but you should also leave room for another. What if your relationship with her was not meant to be, but there still is someone out there, even better than her ? What will she do if you aren't around ? Think of that. Live for your future love, if that is your goal.
Also, don't think so negatively, all of this "I'm a loser" kind of thinking is very bad for your morale. You're not a loser, because there is always time to change to improve. Just try to take it easy, don't get so depressed over this. Try to do something that will cheer you up, go somewhere that you like, take a vacation to a nice place or something to get your mind off of this.
Well, good luck, and I hope you do try to stay positive and make it through this.
You have everything you need to start making your life better (all you need is to be alive). To actually do something is up to you. For a start, you could stop self-pitying and seeking empathy from strangers.
You have everything you need to start making your life better (all you need is to be alive). To actually do something is up to you. For a start, you could stop self-pitying and seeking empathy from strangers.
I have nothing else to say.
A very good point raised. This is the one thing that will make you more of a loser than anything else. Start off being yourself. And stop begging her. let her know you are worth more than just her. Something better is waiting for you.
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