Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

If people do mostly light to medium tasks on their windows desktops maybe they feel a tablet is sufficient enough for them not to buy a desktop or maybe people are just sick of windows already which could be another possibility of declined sales.

For those of us without extensive programming skills, we are pretty much at the mercy of those who have such skills. especially if we don't buy new computers every year or so. Fot those who are up to the challenge, I hope they will continue to program in Linux, and pruduce useable (good) systems for the Desktops that are available. Meanwhile (although I try to avoid any dependence on the 'cloud', i like the idea of having a little android device in my pocket that can serve to as a GPS, mail checker, Bible study aid, etc. (By the way, I really like the android programs 'Mysword' ands 'Maps' which do not at all depend upon the cloud.)

Well, one good reason to switch to Linux is because Windows 8 sucks and Macs are overpriced, underperforming and not easily customized.

I actually like Windows 7, and felt like Microsoft was heading in the right direction with it. But now, trying to unify the UI across devices with little relation to each other (phones, tablets, desktops and consoles) and supporting things like DRM and what not is really going the wrong direction. Especially with all this NSA declassification -- not knowing what's behind the code of a multi-billion dollar corporation heavily lobbied by the NSA because they recognize the extreme power of the heavy monopoly on the desktop market Microsoft has -- is another great reason to switch. Windows 8 just feels so... dumbed down and unorganized. I can't explain it fully but if you had asked me 3 years ago which one is better I might have given Microsoft some slack, but not now.

Opinionated here: job\$\heep creation vs "right(∞) from wrong(∞)"

We're gonna need a mega thread on google and their CONTROL (even the duped do it) sn!

Google and NSA both have one thing in common they both love collecting data on our personal lives.

Originally Posted by liquorUp Google and NSA both have one thing in common they both love collecting data on our personal lives.

Google was allowed to succeed because they collect data for the NSA. Same with AT&T (see room 641A), Facebook, Twitter, etc.. it's really not a free-market society.

I remember when Microsoft first started out, workgroups weren't just for peer-to-peer networking. Workgroups were how they actually structured divisions within the company. The idea was no bosses at the departmental level, everyone in the group shared all the work. There was even a forced rotation of responsibilities, so everyone did everyone else's job and nobody was indispensable. Fascist corporatism (Mussolini-style) corrupts everything. Kind of like how the Cathedral and the Bazaar concept is being corrupted by the fascists right now in Linux-land. It's a shame.

My family got a new desktop computer which unfortunately had Windows 8 installed on it. I've really only used it for printing and scanning jobs, I try to avoid it whenever else. My dad hates it too and my mom thinks it's confusing.

Need to cruise the Dumpster alleys again for my next Desktop Computer. Thank you Windows.

Mint has been on top of things for several years running, but lately (since Mint11 really) they are really messing up trying to keep up with all the latest trends. I'm on mint13 right now because I can't find anything better, but Not very happy with it's performance. Probably not altogether Mints fault. some blame goes to Ubuntu, and some to Firefox, etc. But I have sort of depended on the Mint team to weed out those things. Oh-well. It's way better than Windows. On my phone, I've got Android 2.2. Some of the programing on that is way better than what's on any desktop i've seen. But there are things I really don't want to do onthat tiny screen.

I think ubuntu and Mint are trying too hard to get a decent share of the desktop market while incorporating new enhancements and features. They know the desktop market is windows domain and since some users are unhappy with windows 8, they are trying to win these people over.

I'm no fan of the windows OS, but MS can afford to have many bad years ahead and windows will still remain the defacto OS for desktop users. I wish I could be wrong.

Everybody notice how installing allot of non-Free~software+ seems to involve trickery i.e. check boxes and reading carefully,,, plus some still installing what they want either-way (RoR(game)\F-ing-bing++)! Some\many capitalists: their not sheep or herd followers but BIGS!

I wonder if windows has a thread running like this 1.

Nope, probably not. We're the ones who get to have all the fun!

Originally Posted by littlejoe5 For those of us without extensive programming skills, we are pretty much at the mercy of those who have such skills. especially if we don't buy new computers every year or so. Fot those who are up to the challenge, I hope they will continue to program in Linux, and pruduce useable (good) systems for the Desktops that are available. Meanwhile (although I try to avoid any dependence on the 'cloud', i like the idea of having a little android device in my pocket that can serve to as a GPS, mail checker, Bible study aid, etc. (By the way, I really like the android programs 'Mysword' ands 'Maps' which do not at all depend upon the cloud.)

Are you talking about the stock Android maps which is google maps? if so that needs the cloud for the map data.

Originally Posted by jamison20000e Everybody notice how installing allot of non-Free~software+ seems to involve trickery

Which reminds me. A while back, in an unthinking moment, I bought Civilization 5 since it was on-sale. In reading the terms-of-service (TOS) I decided that I didn't want it, so I declined to accept the TOS. No instructions appeared on how to return the game for a refund should you not accept the TOS. Both the store where I bought the game and the manufacturer refused to make a refund and each pointed to the other party. Eventually, I did get a courtesy refund from the credit card company. Quite duplicitous, these companies assert that piracy is illegal and immoral yet they refuse to deal honestly with people who actually buy their products. Why be honest with them?