Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

No worries!

Originally Posted by enorbet Here ya go. Worry this bone for a bit.... https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...oft-to-fix-it/

Obviously a tactic to distract from the NSA's constant exploitation of Windows security vulnerabilities. And yet people are probably going to buy it...

Linux won the OS war. Linux is the better choice. Even Microsoft is embracing linux for it's security and features into it's products.

I agree. Linux won the war because it is the better choice, regardless of what Microsoft does or what "most" "almost all" or "normal" people do about this simple statement of fact.

There will be many noble battles with ignorance and other very important and multifaceted aspects of the world(s) we live in long after anyone who could ever imaginably read these words we type into this fragile internet tonight, but there are always battles long after heroes have shuffled off this mortal coil.

But we won this one. Linux is unquestionably a better OS than Microsoft, Apple, Android, etc. The third sentence is irrelevant even if we might have different opinions about it.

Okay. All done. We can go have fun now.

Originally Posted by dave555 Even Microsoft is embracing linux for it's security and features into it's products.

Linux embraces Windows (KDE), macOS (GNOME) and Plan 9 (/proc). They have clearly won.

Originally Posted by YesItsMe Linux embraces Windows (KDE), macOS (GNOME)

If you're exclusively looking at interfaces and ignoring the very different aspects of Windows/KDE and Aqua/GNOME, sure. Also, KDE is not Linux-specific, as it runs on multiple *nices (the *BSDs, OpenSolaris derivatives for Plasma 4, and obviously Linux).

and Plan 9 (/proc). They have clearly won.

Plan 9 is a free Unix-family OS - even though it isn't Linux, they share similar underlying philosophies and usage. Linux simply implementing similar ideas to other OSes isn't enough to say the other OSes have "won." I'm not convinced that Windows implementing the WSL is enough to say Linux has won either.

Originally Posted by andigena Plan 9 is a (...) Unix-family OS

It is not.

Originally Posted by YesItsMe It is not.

Oh, you're right. I think I mixed it up with NeXTSTEP. It does implement Unix-like features, though.

NeXTSTEP was a BSD distribution (more or less). Plan 9 is the successor to Unix.

@ YesItsMe

All you have are denials. Linux won the best choice OS to use because it is secure, scalable and it's more preferred to used on many types of devices from super computers to small embeded devices. Microsoft is using linux in it's azure iot controller. lol

Both are vulnerable. It's about the tools one utilizes. Just because the majority uses or agrees on something, doesn't means it's the best.

Originally Posted by noordinaryspider I agree. Linux won the war because it is the better choice, regardless of what Microsoft does or what "most" "almost all" or "normal" people do about this simple statement of fact. There will be many noble battles with ignorance and other very important and multifaceted aspects of the world(s) we live in long after anyone who could ever imaginably read these words we type into this fragile internet tonight, but there are always battles long after heroes have shuffled off this mortal coil. But we won this one. Linux is unquestionably a better OS than Microsoft, Apple, Android, etc. The third sentence is irrelevant even if we might have different opinions about it. Okay. All done. We can go have fun now.

Since you seem to be advocating in favor of Linux, I can't disagree too much. However, I do just need to point out that Android is built on top of Linux. So I feel it's a little questionable to say Linux is better than Android.

Originally Posted by rigor Since you seem to be advocating in favor of Linux, I can't disagree too much. However, I do just need to point out that Android is built on top of Linux. So I feel it's a little questionable to say Linux is better than Android.

Android only uses the Linux kernel. Here, I imagine Linux means the GNU/Linux OS, since it's being treated as comparable to Windows.

Originally Posted by andigena Android only uses the Linux kernel. Here, I imagine Linux means the GNU/Linux OS, since it's being treated as comparable to Windows.

In a sense, it could be said that about the only thing that is Linux itself, is the kernel. Beyond that, there are a whoooooooole slew of different "distributions". In that sense, Android could more or less be thought of as a Linux distribution.

Originally Posted by rigor In a sense, it could be said that about the only thing that is Linux itself, is the kernel. Beyond that, there are a whoooooooole slew of different "distributions". In that sense, Android could more or less be thought of as a Linux distribution.

But that is not the meaning which "Linux distribution" is commonly understood to hold (that is, an operating system consisting of at minimum the GNU core, the Linux kernel, and a package manager). If I define "fruit" as any body produced by a plant and then say that by that definition, carrots are a fruit, I'd be technically right, but that would mean absolutely nothing because my initial definition was not widely accepted.