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05-08-2012, 04:00 PM
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#391
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Registered: May 2010
Location: Russia
Distribution: Slackware 1.0,...64-13.37
Posts: 30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dugan
You know, you're being a real jerk. Just thought I should point that out in case you weren't aware of it already.
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Very typical ... calling names, no sense of humour and no response. May be you try to explain why should one run CMS to host a simplistic site ?
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05-08-2012, 04:03 PM
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#392
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LQ Newbie
Registered: May 2012
Posts: 1
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How much traffic does www.slackware.com do? I'd imagine its probably not much more than 100Mb at peak? If they would like I could offer up a CDN to front the server also.
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05-08-2012, 04:11 PM
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#393
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Member
Registered: Oct 2008
Distribution: Slackware: 12.1, 13.0, 13.1, 13.37, 64-14
Posts: 678
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linq
Very typical ... calling names, no sense of humour and no response. May be you try to explain why should one run CMS to host a simplistic site ?
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Intended or not, your behavior is that of what is known as a rhetorical tar-baby (Google Br'er Rabbit and the Tar Baby if you don't know what that means).
Your statements seem to be contentious and designed to provoke an angry response - thus inviting the target to grab onto the tar baby - from which they cannot easily extricate themselves because there is no point to be reasoned with.
You then set out successive challenges as bait.
If the bait is taken you exhaust the sincere responders with more bait, i.e. "May be you try to explain why... ", or put words into their mouth like, "So you suggest...".
If not taken, you accuse them of being disingenuous, "Very typical ... calling names, no sense of humour and no response".
The only defense against a rhetorical tar-baby is to recognize them for what they are (I have), point it out as a warning to those who have not (I did), then cease to respond to their games... I will.
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6 members found this post helpful.
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05-08-2012, 04:47 PM
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#394
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Senior Member
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 3,659
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linq
Very typical ... calling names, no sense of humour and no response. May be you try to explain why should one run CMS to host a simplistic site ?
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No name-calling was done. All I did was give you honest feedback on how the way you've communicated has been perceived. You can take it or leave it. And no, I didn't see any of what you posted as "humor".
Anyway, "why should one run CMS to host a simplistic site"? Sure I can answer that. Obviously, what motivated the offer was the information that I've already linked to you: that the original website ran on very old hardware, and would have to be updated or rewritten to run on a new host. You (well, I) can draw some obvious conclusions from that. First, the website is CMS-managed. If it isn't, and it's just a bunch of static HTML/CSS files, then that wouldn't be a problem. It may be a CMS written specifically for that one website, but it's a CMS nonetheless. Second, you can conclude, from the age of the hardware, that the website was likely written for a very old server-side technology stack (say, PHP 4) that would be difficult to reproduce on a current host.
You have no doubt noticed that many people have offered to help out with the means available to them. Some, for example, have offered hosting. Others have donated money. For my part, I have the skills to solve solve what Pat described as "the real problem" by migrating the site to a currently supported backend. One that is designed specifically for managing websites that are around the size and scale of slackware.com. Hence, there was no reason not to offer to do so.
Last edited by dugan; 05-08-2012 at 05:03 PM.
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4 members found this post helpful.
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05-08-2012, 05:36 PM
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#395
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Moderator
Registered: May 2001
Posts: 24,788
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Until Even after this thread is reopened ask yourself why LQ values mature behaviour, mutual respect and meaningful discussion.
Last edited by unSpawn; 05-09-2012 at 11:03 AM.
Reason: //Reopen thread.
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9 members found this post helpful.
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05-09-2012, 05:40 PM
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#396
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Member
Registered: Aug 2008
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Distribution: Slackware, OpenBSD, others periodically
Posts: 503
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WordPress? please noooooooooooooooooooo

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2 members found this post helpful.
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05-10-2012, 03:27 AM
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#397
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Slackware Contributor
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 4,679
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NyteOwl
WordPress? please noooooooooooooooooooo

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Well, having some sort of CMS would not be bad at all. Essentially, there was some code behind the slackware.com site which allowed Patrick to post news items and update other sections, which you might call a Content Management System. But its author/maintainer was last seen some years ago and parts of the site were replaced by static HTML instead of dynamically generated code.
It would be nice to have a way to post to slackware.com, not just for Patrick but also for other coreteam members, such as Stuart Winter who could then inform the community about his ARMedslack work.
Whether such a CMS should be based on Wordpress or something entirely different, is the question of course. There's enough choice in good open source CMS.
I have nothing against Wordpress, my own blog at http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/ is running it to my satisfaction.
Eric
PS: my mirror server "taper" is again online at http://taper.alienbase.nl/ - using a different IP, on a different physical host in another datacenter.
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2 members found this post helpful.
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05-10-2012, 05:31 AM
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#398
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LQ Newbie
Registered: May 2012
Location: The Shadow Gallery
Distribution: Slackware64-current
Posts: 11
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Why is the site down ?
1. Slacker
Someone who puts off doing things to the last minute, and when the last minutes comes, decides it wasn't all that important anyways and forgets about it
Source:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slacker
Thats why ;-)
Peace
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05-10-2012, 07:08 AM
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#399
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Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Melbourne
Distribution: Slackware-current
Posts: 2,746
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PS: my mirror server "taper" is again online at http://taper.alienbase.nl/ - using a different IP, on a different physical host in another datacenter.
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Confirmed. My grateful thanks for your provision of this valuable resource.
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05-10-2012, 10:08 AM
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#400
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Member
Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Coal Township PA
Distribution: Slackware64-14.0 (3.9.3) UEFI enabled
Posts: 281
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Right Arm
Quote:
Originally Posted by haqking
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Been one all my Life!
john
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05-10-2012, 10:19 AM
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#401
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Senior Member
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Pisa, Italy
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 1,942
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maybe definitions 7 and 8 are more appropriate 
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05-10-2012, 10:22 AM
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#402
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LQ Newbie
Registered: May 2012
Location: The Shadow Gallery
Distribution: Slackware64-current
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlleyTrotter
Been one all my Life!
john
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I'm with ya there, well i would be but im kind of apathetic about it
Peace
Last edited by haqking; 05-10-2012 at 11:52 AM.
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05-10-2012, 10:29 AM
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#403
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LQ 5k Club
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Laptop: Slackware 14.0 // Desktop: Slackware64 14.0 // Netbook: Slackware 14.0
Posts: 6,176
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"The Slackness that can be defined is not The True Slackness."
--Lazy Too
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05-10-2012, 10:41 AM
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#404
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LQ Newbie
Registered: May 2012
Location: The Shadow Gallery
Distribution: Slackware64-current
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brianL
"The Slackness that can be defined is not The True Slackness."
--Lazy Too
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Indeed.
Many speak of suffering from an inner voice that screams, 'Let me out!'.
Last edited by haqking; 05-10-2012 at 11:52 AM.
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05-11-2012, 03:14 PM
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#405
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Member
Registered: Aug 2008
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Distribution: Slackware, OpenBSD, others periodically
Posts: 503
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Bob
Well, having some sort of CMS would not be bad at all. Essentially, there was some code behind the slackware.com site which allowed Patrick to post news items and update other sections, which you might call a Content Management System. But its author/maintainer was last seen some years ago and parts of the site were replaced by static HTML instead of dynamically generated code.
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It wasn't a denigration of CMS/dynamic site, just a friendly jab at WordPress. I've used WP myself but I prefer TextPattern. Like most things, each to their own taste. I'd also be willing to help with the site if it can use another hand.

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