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Old 05-08-2012, 04:00 PM   #391
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You know, you're being a real jerk. Just thought I should point that out in case you weren't aware of it already.
Very typical ... calling names, no sense of humour and no response. May be you try to explain why should one run CMS to host a simplistic site ?
 
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:03 PM   #392
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How much traffic does www.slackware.com do? I'd imagine its probably not much more than 100Mb at peak? If they would like I could offer up a CDN to front the server also.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 04:11 PM   #393
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Very typical ... calling names, no sense of humour and no response. May be you try to explain why should one run CMS to host a simplistic site ?
Intended or not, your behavior is that of what is known as a rhetorical tar-baby (Google Br'er Rabbit and the Tar Baby if you don't know what that means).

Your statements seem to be contentious and designed to provoke an angry response - thus inviting the target to grab onto the tar baby - from which they cannot easily extricate themselves because there is no point to be reasoned with.

You then set out successive challenges as bait.
If the bait is taken you exhaust the sincere responders with more bait, i.e. "May be you try to explain why... ", or put words into their mouth like, "So you suggest...".

If not taken, you accuse them of being disingenuous, "Very typical ... calling names, no sense of humour and no response".

The only defense against a rhetorical tar-baby is to recognize them for what they are (I have), point it out as a warning to those who have not (I did), then cease to respond to their games... I will.
 
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:47 PM   #394
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Very typical ... calling names, no sense of humour and no response. May be you try to explain why should one run CMS to host a simplistic site ?
No name-calling was done. All I did was give you honest feedback on how the way you've communicated has been perceived. You can take it or leave it. And no, I didn't see any of what you posted as "humor".

Anyway, "why should one run CMS to host a simplistic site"? Sure I can answer that. Obviously, what motivated the offer was the information that I've already linked to you: that the original website ran on very old hardware, and would have to be updated or rewritten to run on a new host. You (well, I) can draw some obvious conclusions from that. First, the website is CMS-managed. If it isn't, and it's just a bunch of static HTML/CSS files, then that wouldn't be a problem. It may be a CMS written specifically for that one website, but it's a CMS nonetheless. Second, you can conclude, from the age of the hardware, that the website was likely written for a very old server-side technology stack (say, PHP 4) that would be difficult to reproduce on a current host.

You have no doubt noticed that many people have offered to help out with the means available to them. Some, for example, have offered hosting. Others have donated money. For my part, I have the skills to solve solve what Pat described as "the real problem" by migrating the site to a currently supported backend. One that is designed specifically for managing websites that are around the size and scale of slackware.com. Hence, there was no reason not to offer to do so.

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Old 05-08-2012, 05:36 PM   #395
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:40 PM   #396
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WordPress? please noooooooooooooooooooo

 
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:27 AM   #397
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WordPress? please noooooooooooooooooooo

Well, having some sort of CMS would not be bad at all. Essentially, there was some code behind the slackware.com site which allowed Patrick to post news items and update other sections, which you might call a Content Management System. But its author/maintainer was last seen some years ago and parts of the site were replaced by static HTML instead of dynamically generated code.
It would be nice to have a way to post to slackware.com, not just for Patrick but also for other coreteam members, such as Stuart Winter who could then inform the community about his ARMedslack work.

Whether such a CMS should be based on Wordpress or something entirely different, is the question of course. There's enough choice in good open source CMS.
I have nothing against Wordpress, my own blog at http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/ is running it to my satisfaction.

Eric

PS: my mirror server "taper" is again online at http://taper.alienbase.nl/ - using a different IP, on a different physical host in another datacenter.
 
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:31 AM   #398
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Why is the site down ?

1. Slacker
Someone who puts off doing things to the last minute, and when the last minutes comes, decides it wasn't all that important anyways and forgets about it

Source:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slacker

Thats why ;-)

Peace
 
Old 05-10-2012, 07:08 AM   #399
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PS: my mirror server "taper" is again online at http://taper.alienbase.nl/ - using a different IP, on a different physical host in another datacenter.
Confirmed. My grateful thanks for your provision of this valuable resource.
 
Old 05-10-2012, 10:08 AM   #400
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Why is the site down ?

1. Slacker
Someone who puts off doing things to the last minute, and when the last minutes comes, decides it wasn't all that important anyways and forgets about it

Source:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slacker

Thats why ;-)

Peace

Been one all my Life!

john
 
Old 05-10-2012, 10:19 AM   #401
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maybe definitions 7 and 8 are more appropriate
 
Old 05-10-2012, 10:22 AM   #402
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Been one all my Life!

john
I'm with ya there, well i would be but im kind of apathetic about it

Peace

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Old 05-10-2012, 10:29 AM   #403
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"The Slackness that can be defined is not The True Slackness."
--Lazy Too
 
Old 05-10-2012, 10:41 AM   #404
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"The Slackness that can be defined is not The True Slackness."
--Lazy Too
Indeed.

Many speak of suffering from an inner voice that screams, 'Let me out!'.

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Old 05-11-2012, 03:14 PM   #405
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Well, having some sort of CMS would not be bad at all. Essentially, there was some code behind the slackware.com site which allowed Patrick to post news items and update other sections, which you might call a Content Management System. But its author/maintainer was last seen some years ago and parts of the site were replaced by static HTML instead of dynamically generated code.
It wasn't a denigration of CMS/dynamic site, just a friendly jab at WordPress. I've used WP myself but I prefer TextPattern. Like most things, each to their own taste. I'd also be willing to help with the site if it can use another hand.

 
  


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