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Old 05-08-2012, 09:28 AM   #361
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Looks like some of you could use a refresher.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 09:58 AM   #362
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Why should it be fixed? What do you need it for?
this.
'Cause it'd show a respect for the numerous users and provide handy explanations and directions.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 10:02 AM   #363
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I simply fail to understand at all why it should be a problem when the website is down. When you want to go to the website that implies that you actually can read (not much pictures on that site, besides the propaganda stuff), so where lies the problem in reading where the mirrors are?
The problem lies in the fact that most users start their search for news and updates at www.slackware.com.
So are you going to tell us the site is irrelevant ?
 
Old 05-08-2012, 10:20 AM   #364
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maybe it's just me, but when I want to have news and updates, I open a new browser window and press the "c" key: firefox, here, autocompletes it with this.

and those are much more news that you can get on the website, that has a new entry at most twice in a year: the pages linked by 55020, updated lot of months ago, are exactly the same that were on the website before the hardware crash.
so maybe yes, it's not much relevant for news and updates.

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Old 05-08-2012, 10:21 AM   #365
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First, don't press ENTER at the end of each line.
Ok, I will try to learn using italics and CAPS.

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Second, this is why it's taking so long:
I have a strange feeling we're speaking different languages . All I wanted to say is that if a problem takes more than a few hours why not just put a tailored 404 page or redirect the site. For example, while reading your posts, I have ordered, payed for and registered a domain name, configured two DNS srevers and launched a stub page http://www.slackware.com.ru
 
Old 05-08-2012, 10:27 AM   #366
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updated lot of months ago, are exactly the same that were on the website before the hardware crash.
so maybe yes, it's not much relevant for news and updates.
And this is very true, the site looks frozen. It needs much more attention.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 10:30 AM   #367
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no, pal, I haven't said that: it's simply that the changelog is enough.
nobody needs spam.

and I think you should ask Pat for permission of using the www.slackware.com name and discuss with him the content of that page, before spreading FUD on a dedicated domain.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 12:00 PM   #368
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The problem lies in the fact that most users start their search for news and updates at www.slackware.com.
As they say on Wikipedia, citation needed

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So are you going to tell us the site is irrelevant ?
I'm going to tell you that the site is unimportant. All the useful stuff is on other sites.

The reality, today, is that Slackware is decentralised and distributed, and works on trust. The users trust the team's altruism and good taste in software engineering. The team trusts the leader's aims and values. The leader trusts Jeremy to host a well-run forum with no conflict of interest, he trusts OSUOSL to host the primary FTP site, and he trusts the users to provide financial support and honest feedback.

Maybe he has been surprised by your honest feedback about www.slackware.com, and will soon give you what you seem to want: an indestructible symbolic centre of corporate authority and power. But that would be a bit sad, because it's just not the spirit of Slack.
 
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:49 PM   #369
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As they say on Wikipedia, citation needed
Easy. Enter 'slackware' in google and see the result

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I'm going to tell you that the site is unimportant. All the useful stuff is on other sites.
And this explains why such a nice project is not as popular as it should be.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 01:48 PM   #370
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such a nice project is not as popular as it should be.
popular?

Dude, this distro is the heart and soul of the *counterculture*

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Old 05-08-2012, 01:59 PM   #371
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And this explains why such a nice project is not as popular as it should be.
And perpetuating FUD, when you've been given satisfactory explanations (for most of us) of the problems, is liable to make it even less popular.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 02:05 PM   #372
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popular?
Dude, this distro is the heart and soul of the *counterculture*
Depends on what you consider 'culture', MS Windows RedHat ? Ubuntu ?
Yes, unfortunately popular is often synonim of bad taste.
But shouldn't a good thing be (tend to be) more popular ?
 
Old 05-08-2012, 02:07 PM   #373
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And perpetuating FUD, when you've been given satisfactory explanations (for most of us) of the problems, is liable to make it even less popular.

And where did you find FUD ? I'm praying for Slackware ..

PS.
Wow, www.slackware.com is back !
Perhaps my posts wrere noticed
 
Old 05-08-2012, 02:18 PM   #374
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And this explains why such a nice project is not as popular as it should be.
Cringe! A popularity cultist? One of so very many...

"Good-ness" and "popularity" are not related, and often orthogonal, for most purposes!

Slackware is "good" in every sense of that word, within its domain!

Popularity has proven to be, for the most part, "evil" within that same domain!

Slackware is "good" because Pat and other contributors strive to make it "good"!

If they ever strive to make it "popular" they would probably succeed, but it would then be less "good".
 
Old 05-08-2012, 02:21 PM   #375
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(I've sent Pat an offer to redo the site in Wordpress. He hasn't replied; I guess he's still considering his options).
And it would be like monk driving a Ferrari.

Slackware site's design is a reflection of its philosophy.
 
  


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