No worries, I'll just do my homework myself then

Well, I already have these lists in the repo I linked to in my previous post, computed by George Vlahavas with his own tool depfinder, so a bit of scripting from that will do. Yes I know the issue with python. depfinder tries to find the python deps with the -p option, but the packager might need to do some manual work to sort out which python dependencies are optional and which are not, as stated in the README. A manual work is needed also for perl dependencies. Anyway I will compare the results from sbbdep and depfinder: that slipped from my TODO list so thanks for the heads-up.

Glad I read this through this thread, despite the Subject . Made me curious too, so I'm now running 5 on 14.2. Just logged in to agree with your quote and say thanks. Slackware is great, especially when I RTFM. It is all there if I just take time enough to read (and comprehend). Thanks a lot for good docs.

Long live Slackware.

will be included.
hhaaaaaa that is a statement of definitely
which means no discussion will forbade such an inclusion of systemD

There is no sign that Slackware will be forced to adopt systemd. Every time there's been a hard requirement for something (udev, logind), there's been a project that has pulled that out of systemd and made a standalone version available (eudev and elogind, respectively). Hopefully this trend continues...

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Agreed. Slackware works well as is.

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English is not Didier's mother tongue, even though he has a better command of it than some of the native speakers here.

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Well, AlienBob's Plasma 5 packages are really great. Plasma 5 is so much better now than KDE 4 or KDE3. I miss some diversity in the looks department (for example, I sorely miss the KDE1 window decoration) but as a desktop system is very stable, fast, lean, looks good and is extremely useful.

Already said it, but I think it's high time that Plasma 5 should be included in Slackware-current as an upgrade of KDE4. I'm very thankful to AlienBob for providing us the immense convenience of good packages for one of the best DEs in the whole world.

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well a learning experience for everyone then .. keel beans

I use kde since version 1.0, and I think plasma 5 is much better than kde4, which was a nightmare has its beginnings, it's just my opinion

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I'm ok with plasma 5
I'm NOT ok with systemd

because I'm fighting the white slave trade over ownership of myself I am forced to consider the source of every thing said to me and why it's being said with out any exceptions

so I question the source of systemd

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Repeating the same thing endlessly is really boring, please leave us alone.

While the premise of this thread was false (being based on an already disproven article from years ago), the behavior of some of the core contributor of slackware seem troubling.
Why instead of ignoring this thread call for it's Locking or moving to another forum?
I understand that constantly hearing from the users that they oppose Systemd probably gets old, but if it triggers you just ignore the thread and let those who wish to discuss it or even vent to a reasonable degree do so.
I for one will continue to use Slackware as long as it remains Systemd free and will decide where to go from there based on the options available at that time.
My two cents on Plasma 5, I found it usable but very ugly with almost no options to change the look in any meaningful way. I tried Aliens live cd as well as a couple others just to make sure there weren't more options in other distros and there weren't. While some might like that "Metro" look I don't and really can't understand why developers feel the need to mimic everything microsoft or apple does with their UIs.

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Because this Slackware forum's main aim is to answer Slackware users' questions, see this page.

This kind of thread of which there is no lack[1] brings nothing: it doesn't answer any question that relates to Slackware and has no chance to have any effect on Slackware's evolution. Furthermore it usually triggers useless flame wars that don't make the Slackware community look good.

Patrick Volkerding himself said it better.

[1]This list includes only threads with more than 30 answers

PS In case you wonder, I am not a Slackware contributor.

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@Didier Spaier
HAY DUDE !!
just encase you haven't noticed this is a slackware user asking a question about slackware

quote
"I am not a Slackware contributor."
then please stop speaking as though you are one

I have a question for you Didier Spaier
would you like to see slackware jump on the systemd band wagon ?
from your replays in this thread it looks like you would

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Rob.Rice, he is a dev. of his distro. Slint which is based on Slackware and Salix. Check it out, he is also a frequent poster on LQ and helps alot of people.

Just a little FYI, systemd is not in Slackware now, will not be for the next few years, Alien is against it, PV also but is pragmatic. Who knows for sure, but I do know that we have resisted other poorly designed programs (PAM etc..), so I would imagine this would be no different. As stated by other people if PV and crew do add systemd, it will be the best utilized least maniacal and most sane interpretation in any distro.