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Old 12-11-2007, 12:15 PM   #31
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I agree with previous comments about the documentation, wikis, etc being too spread out over the internet. It would be nice to have an updated slackbook/slackwiki directly on slackware.com. This seems much more like our responsibility than the official Slackware team as they have plenty on their hands.
Personally, I would agree to help if this won't be another slackwarehowto.something.net, but the conglomeration of all sources and officialy approved by Pat or Slackware Team (whoever it consists of).

I hope you all know freebsd handbook. One of the greatest manuals ever (and not only for freebsd, but for whole *bsd oses and more). I wish Slackware could have smth similar. Because Slackware is the most Unix like system there (please don't argue with me), it should have such type of handbook just because lots of things written here also applies to other distros most often without problems. Once RedHat was thought as the classic and the only one reliable GNU/Linux (I still have some of those old manuals), but these times are over. Constant patching doesn't increase system compatibility.

What I wanted to say, that Slackware book would/should apply to most GNU/Linux distros.

End of rant...
 
Old 12-11-2007, 12:53 PM   #32
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I hope you all know freebsd handbook. One of the greatest manuals ever (and not only for freebsd, but for whole *bsd oses and more). I wish Slackware could have smth similar. Because Slackware is the most Unix like system there (please don't argue with me), it should have such type of handbook just because lots of things written here also applies to other distros most often without problems. Once RedHat was thought as the classic and the only one reliable GNU/Linux (I still have some of those old manuals), but these times are over. Constant patching doesn't increase system compatibility.

What I wanted to say, that Slackware book would/should apply to most GNU/Linux distros.

End of rant...
Even though this isn't the case I still refer some linux newbies to the slackbook because it does offer some good linux basics.
 
Old 12-11-2007, 03:47 PM   #33
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Don't change Slackware.

Expand it (if possible)
 
Old 12-11-2007, 05:15 PM   #34
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Hi,

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Don't change Slackware.

Expand it (if possible)
What exactly do you mean by expand it?
 
Old 12-11-2007, 07:12 PM   #35
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My 2 cents

As a newbie in the linux world, I've been facing some tough time finding information in a reliable and structured way.
Thanks to:
  • Many folks in this forum
  • Hours in front of the computer
  • tons of creativity in finding excuses to "dodge" angry wife...
, my "slack life" became a lot easier.

The idea of creating a centralized (reliable, oficial, constantly updated) pool of knowledge (be it a book, bible, wiki or whatever) would definitely help bringing in more and more users, and I would think that popularity won't really hurt in this case. Having such knowledge available in one place would make Slackware less scary to the average user.

I would also like to see an "official" port to AMD64 architecture. Last time I checked, SLAMD64 was still on v11...

If this idea moves forward, I would also like to somehow contribute to the project(even being a newbie - but that won't last forever!)

 
Old 12-11-2007, 08:03 PM   #36
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The idea of creating a centralized (reliable, oficial, constantly updated) pool of knowledge (be it a book, bible, wiki or whatever) would definitely help bringing in more and more users, and I would think that popularity won't really hurt in this case. Having such knowledge available in one place would make Slackware less scary to the average user.

If this idea moves forward, I would also like to somehow contribute to the project(even being a newbie - but that won't last forever!)
I'd like to help as well...
 
Old 12-12-2007, 12:34 AM   #37
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I shouldn't mind seeing the network support provided by Tukaani's pkgtools included with Slackware. One of the first things I do after a new install is replace SW's pkgtools with Tukaani's.
 
Old 12-12-2007, 09:12 AM   #38
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Hey, already on the third page and no-one has suggested suspend to ram/disk? I'm a laptop user, and I'd like to see both suspend and networkmanager in Slackware. I haven't tried using (k)networkmanager, as the compile seems quite some work, but I did compile s2disk and friends, and it works quite nicely.
 
Old 12-12-2007, 09:42 AM   #39
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There is a SlackWiki, and it has some great info in it.

I concur, with updating the Slackbook. I personally don't have the time or the knowledge to help that project all that much... but I would gladly buy a copy of it and/or donate to the project. I have a copy of the slackbook sitting right next to me and it is a great read, but it would be nice for it to be updated for v12.
 
Old 12-13-2007, 10:03 AM   #40
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Most important:
Intel wireless firmware:
ipw2100
ipw2200
Intel wireless chips are very popular.
(Ubuntu includes them by default)

Nice to have:
A few java developer items

Eclipse IDE, java development tool.
Eclipse has lots of plugins that can be used for php,sql etc.

Tomcat java server
mod_jk apache plugin (tomcat connector)

Maven 2 build tool.

and maybe the Ant build tool

I have rolled my own packages of these, and would be happy to share scripts or packages if anyone is interested.

Regards
Java developer.
 
Old 12-13-2007, 11:17 AM   #41
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Eclipse is very huge. BTW, you just need to download it and that's all. No need to keep it in Slackware. Other people would need NetBeans. There won't be an end for requests.

Last edited by Alien_Hominid; 12-13-2007 at 11:20 AM.
 
Old 12-13-2007, 11:35 AM   #42
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I say let's make Slackware as bloated as other distros ... then we'll have only bloated distros to choose from.
 
Old 12-13-2007, 12:08 PM   #43
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Agreed. Some things are better left out. Fancy that, we have a package manager and can install them on our own with a whole whoppin' one line command! Much appreciation goes out to people who manage these packages so this is possible.

As far as the documentation, what would be the first step to get it moving in the right direction- towards having a centralized Slackware Bible similar to the BSD manual mentioned earlier?
 
Old 12-13-2007, 12:25 PM   #44
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Hi all,

There's not much that I'd like to see in Slackware that's not there already. If there's a particular application that I really want, I typically build it myself using a SlackBuild script from SlackBuilds.org, or use src2pkg.

I'd like to see src2pkg officially included in the distribution, replacing checkinstall if necessary. I'd also like to see Emacs 22 instead of Emacs 21.

Other than that, an update and expansion to the Slackbook would be helpful. I'll see what I can do to help.

Regards,

-Drew
 
Old 12-13-2007, 03:34 PM   #45
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After checking the size requirements of Eclipse I'd have to admit it is not the kind of application you can fit on a floppy - they range from 80 to 250MB depending on configuration/plugins included.

The other packages would take about 12MB combined in package size, which isn't so terribly bad.
 
  


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