A Guide: Enabling 3D Acceleration in X11

stormtracknole · 05-17-2006, 03:21 PM

Well, I just noticed something intresting. It seems that the DRI is working since I'm getting over the 2000 fps, but when I do glxinfo, the DRI says NO. I did it as root also, and got the same thing. Is this normal?

cwwilson721 · 05-17-2006, 03:26 PM

Nvidia does things a little different. Yes, it's normal. Sometimes, depending on the card/driver and init level combo, it will say no.

Try to boot into x from the commandline (init 3). Log in as 'root', try glxinfo, and then try as a user. See what it says then. If you already are, try init 4. But login in either case as 'root' first, right after the reboot.

stormtracknole · 05-17-2006, 03:34 PM

Well, good to know that it may be normal. I'm not too worried about it though because the dri still works. Oh, and I keep getting my fps confused. LOL! The box that I'm using at work gets over 2000 while the older box I have at home gets a 1300. My box at home is a pci video while the one here at work is an AGP. That could be the difference. Have you noticed an increase in fps when compiling the 2.6 kernel from source? Do you use a PCI or AGP?

cwwilson721 · 05-17-2006, 03:40 PM

I only have access, and stats, from my laptop at the moment.

Kernel 2.4.31, Slack 10.2, 750fps
Kernel 2.6.13, Slack 10.2, 1100fps
Kernel 2.6.16, Slack 10.2, 2000fps
Kernel 2.6.17rc3, Current, 2500fps

Its an agp i830m. The increases are mostly due to kernel upgrades/recompiles/getting rid of stuff that is running that doesn't need to be running.

stormtracknole · 05-17-2006, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwwilson721

I only have access, and stats, from my laptop at the moment.

Kernel 2.4.31, Slack 10.2, 750fps
Kernel 2.6.13, Slack 10.2, 1100fps
Kernel 2.6.16, Slack 10.2, 2000fps
Kernel 2.6.17rc3, Current, 2500fps

Its an agp i830m. The increases are mostly due to kernel upgrades/recompiles/getting rid of stuff that is running that doesn't need to be running.

Wow! That's impressive!!! I better get going and compile the kernel. Well, that's again for your help. Time for me to go home! Have a good one!

cwwilson721 · 05-17-2006, 04:05 PM

Actually, I recompiled a fresh kernel last night, after a repartition/reformat/reinstall.
Check this out (I just did this!!!)

Code:

root@toaster:~# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82830 830 Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 04)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 42)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801CAM IDE U100 (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02)
01:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 12)
01:05.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ601/6912/711E0 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller
01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42)
02:00.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01)
root@toaster:~# glxgears
18642 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3728.292 FPS
20218 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4043.556 FPS
20251 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4050.028 FPS
20240 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4047.905 FPS
20253 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4050.454 FPS
20232 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4046.384 FPS

root@toaster:~#

This seems a bit out of whack, but what the hey. It seems like glxgears (not a good benchmark anyways) had a bit of a boost. I think it's too bizarre that my laptop is smoking my nvidia card....Something ain't right. But...

Old_Fogie · 05-18-2006, 04:00 AM

I just wanted to give you guys an update.

No I didnt drop dead yet, LOL.

But a few days ago I downloaded SUSE 10.1 GM to install on a budy of mine's pc. We both hated it and went with something else.

But anyway, before I deleted the install CD's I wanted to see if my ATI radeon would get 3d rendering in it, I have the radeon 9600xt.

Well it did work after a lot of googling to find someone who types out what to do other than...open yast blah blah...ya know.

It did work, which confused me, as my card's not listed on the ATI site as good for the xorg 6.9/7 that suse has.

I checked out the kernel config and they have it set up a little differently than mine. Tho I really dont want to report what it was vs my how to as that's SUSE and it does weird stuff on it's own as we all known, especially with the SAX.

But I guess what I'm saying is that I may have some hope for slack 11, tho I can only hope that Pat V issues another 'testing' kernel that might be tweaked such that nvidia and ATI work out of the box if you run those installers.

Also, although cwwilson had about 1000 fps jump on his card with the new xorg I did not see any improvement, I still only had 3200 fps.

But, then again, maybe I do get more, but becuase SUSE has so much crap running in the background might be slowing me down, I don't know.

stormtracknole · 05-18-2006, 09:51 AM

cwwilson,

Have you noticed a difference between the fonts using the NVIDIA drivers compared to the INTEL? Maybe it's just me, but the fonts from the INTEL card look much better than the NVIDIA. Have you noticed any difference?

cwwilson721 · 05-18-2006, 04:36 PM

Havenot looked at them side by side

Search for 'antialiasing' in the forum, I know the issue has been addressed many times

stormtracknole · 05-18-2006, 05:13 PM

Thanks. Will do. I wasn't sure how to search it.

cwwilson721 · 05-19-2006, 09:08 PM

OK...been waiting awhile, so I thought I'd bring it back up...

Any experience with Via Chips?

Slack11 · 05-21-2006, 12:21 PM

I can confirm that the latest kernel that ATI driver is working on is 2.6.15.7

cwwilson721 · 05-24-2006, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slack11

I can confirm that the latest kernel that ATI driver is working on is 2.6.15.7

I can confirm that ATI is a bugger anyway you look at it.
Why can't it be as easy as Nvidia's installer? Run it, and it works...

Ah, well, the things we have to do....

And I guess nobody uses Via chips? Haven't heard anything about them...

Fluxx · 05-24-2006, 02:37 PM

I run ATI (version 8.24.8) with Slackware-current kernel 2.6.16.18 without problems. I have a ATI X600SE in a FJS Amilo Notebook and glxgears shows 2400 FPS (I think this is o. k.).

Fluxx.

cwwilson721 · 05-24-2006, 02:44 PM

I guess it depends on the card model and driver version.