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Old 06-10-2006, 04:20 PM   #241
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No I did not.

Since they are shown as available video devices in the kernel config I assumed that
they would be supported for DRI 'out of the box'.

Thanks for the tip.
 
Old 06-10-2006, 06:08 PM   #242
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They may work as 2d (framebuffer) devices, but may not be supported as 3d (DRI/DRM) devices....
 
Old 06-12-2006, 02:02 AM   #243
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woh! this 3d rendering for old hardware is really intimidating.

I found on the internet that someone else has a laptop with the same on-board video model as mine.

His how-to really is not a how-to, it's more like "here are my settings in this old linux"

Now, he's referencing using xfree86, but that aside for the moment.

He's talking about finding the memory addresses, and tweaking mtrr's, tweaking nodes in the kernel and stuff.

Off the top of my head, I do remember him referencing this kernel documentation:

/usr/src/YOUR-Kernel-Version-Here/Documentation/mtrr.txt

Does this sound anywhere near legit?

Does that sound like a correct path to follow?

Am I even making sense? LOL
 
Old 06-12-2006, 02:10 AM   #244
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That explains mtrr docs, and yes, they are there.

Mine is enabled anyways (In processor options, I think)

Most of that is work arounds for older kernels. Up to you if you wish to fiddle with the 'central nervous system' of Linux. What the decription sounds like is brain surgery (tweaking nodes, playing with mtrr), as compared to configuring, which is closer to cosmetic surgery (add this, subtract that).
 
Old 06-12-2006, 04:04 AM   #245
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Hi CW.

I just checked my kernel config.

I do have:

CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
CONFIG_FB_NEOMAGIC=m

with my xorg using : Driver "neomagic"
and all the usual stuff, load dri, 0666 mode, blah blah.

I wonder if I am supposed to have my kernel config with the neomagic as "YES".

But let's say I do that. Would that mean that I am supposed to uncheck or say module for the VESA?

I believe that having VESA as "YES" is needed for linux when it boots up.

I'm not really sure what you do when you use native linux drivers for DRI.
 
Old 06-12-2006, 11:09 AM   #246
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I think my vesa is included, i810 module...

Heck, try it as module. Post the results. Can't hurt, would just be a quick experiment.

But only change ONE thing, try to boot, see the result, etc...
 
Old 06-15-2006, 06:14 PM   #247
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Has anybody else heard rumblings of nvidia installer issues with the newer kernels?

I've been seeing some rise in this on other forums/threads. I'm just wondering if any of you have had the same problem/issue.

Mostly looking for versions, etc.

Thanks, all.
 
Old 06-18-2006, 02:53 PM   #248
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Cool. I guess this isn't an issue.
 
Old 06-18-2006, 04:26 PM   #249
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwwilson721
Has anybody else heard rumblings of nvidia installer issues with the newer kernels?

I've been seeing some rise in this on other forums/threads. I'm just wondering if any of you have had the same problem/issue.

Mostly looking for versions, etc.
those SOB's @ nVidia quit supporting my video card, I am still using .7167 driver......I won't waste $$$ on new hardware just to use a new driver....(ALA, windows).....when this video card takes a dump, then I'll buy a new one........
 
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What video card are you using?
 
Old 06-20-2006, 05:59 AM   #251
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Hi all,

Well my neomagic/DRI was a flop! Had to dump and reload. Oh well, guess I gotta live with 30 fps

Anyway, on a side note. Well, for me at least, You know these new ATI drivers on ATI's web-site actually work w/a default install of slackware 10.2 w/the 2.6.13 Testing kernel that's installed on the cd's. No tweaks to kernel, nothing!.Just add in the tmpfs section in the fstab and I loaded just like cwwilson posted of my notes on the front page. That's it.

So apparently, ATI is getting wiser in their install files which is cool to see.
 
Old 06-20-2006, 09:19 PM   #252
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Sounds like ATI is starting to listen.

Now if they can make it as painless as Nvidia's driver install....
 
Old 06-21-2006, 02:30 AM   #253
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You know I don't own one nvidia card, not one. So I have no idea what it's like yet.

I was thinking of going out and getting one, but now that I see ATI trying really hard, I'm thinking I may stay with them again on my next purchase. I find them reliable in windows, that's just me tho I guess.

But I've found these latest ATI drivers using the Open GL has the graphics almost as good on Direct3D in windows for UT2004 demo. Almost that is. I mean, it is a direct3d optimized game, but my point being, it's pretty good performance. I made the windows version of the game use open gl, and had to tweak the heck out of open gl settings to get it to play. The open gl in windows for that game is a little better thank linux open gl too.

So linux open gl not as good for me as windows open gl yet. But then again, ATI is not an open gl house either.

But I wonder if there needs to be some community tweaking on the open gl for performance like you have for the same in windows.

For example in the windows world, you can get dna drivers, omega drivers, etc and they have crazy tweaks for open gl. Any of those exist for Linux open-gl. I cant find any.
 
Old 06-21-2006, 06:40 PM   #254
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Have you checked http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/FrontPage ?

I haven't had the time.....
 
Old 06-22-2006, 07:48 AM   #255
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No but I"m going to look into it.

HEY ALL HEY ALL YOU GOTTA HEAR THIS:

I loaded in bare.i 2.4.31 kernel on my pc in a separate partition, as that's the clean load I use to make packages. Anyway, since I noticed ATI seems to be gettting better, I figured for kicks and giggles I'd see if they work on the default slack kerenel.

I installed the latest ATI drivers per the front page of this thread and I get DRI working. You do have to put the 'tmpfs' in the fstab section and mount it first like usual.
 
  


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