TV card major problems

krock923 · 07-30-2005, 12:12 AM

I have just recently bought a KWORLD Studio TV Terminator from newegg and installed in a PCI slot. I have no idea whatsoever about how to get this thing working in linux. It's almost as if it's not being recognized at all. I have installed xawtv but it's just a blue screen when i try to run it. Mostly i just want the S-video in to work for my xbox, but i will want the tuner features to work for when i go to college. I am totally confused and need some newbie instructions. This has been quite the adventure so far.

maroonbaboon · 07-30-2005, 12:37 AM

You should post the output of 'lspci -vv' (or at least the bit that describes your card). Also output of 'lsmod'. Also say what distro you are using, and anything you have done so far to try to get things working. This is an analog TV card, right? Not digital?

krock923 · 07-30-2005, 12:53 AM

lspci -vv:

Code:

01:07.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133 Audio+video broadcast decoder (rev d0)
        Subsystem: Unknown device 17de:7136
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 32 (4000ns min, 10000ns max)
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 12
        Region 0: Memory at ea000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=3 PME-

lsmod:

Code:

Module                  Size  Used by    Tainted: P
nvidia               4768204   6  (autoclean)
parport_pc             18756   1  (autoclean)
lp                      8868   0  (autoclean)
parport                36480   1  (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
iptable_filter          2380   0  (autoclean) (unused)
ip_tables              14648   1  [iptable_filter]
nvnet                  65216   1
sg                     35980   0  (autoclean)
sr_mod                 17912   0  (autoclean)
ide-scsi               11984   0
scsi_mod              106200   3  [sg sr_mod ide-scsi]
ide-cd                 35196   0
cdrom                  33472   0  [sr_mod ide-cd]
keybdev                 2880   0  (unused)
mousedev                5428   1
hid                    21700   0  (unused)
input                   5792   0  [keybdev mousedev hid]
ehci-hcd               19592   0  (unused)
usb-ohci               21160   0  (unused)
usbcore                77696   1  [hid ehci-hcd usb-ohci]
ext3                   69984   2
jbd                    51220   2  [ext3]

All i have really done is installed xawtv, and about a hundred dependencies and their dependencies and so on and so forth, and it got me nowhere.

My OS is RH9 which probably isn't helping anything, but i'm stuck with it until i can get some more cds to back up my system before a new install.

mike105105 · 07-30-2005, 08:02 AM

Well I couldnt find you card in cardlist for the saa7134 driver but that doesnt mean it wont work.

Try modprobe card=x (for x try numbers 1 through 63 till you find one that gets you video)
in the latest list there are 3 KWORLD cards 10, 59, and 63. You might want to try those first.
between trys rmmod saa7134

If that module doesnt exist I would suggest downloading the latest 2.6 kernel and compile it with the video for linux drivers as modules.
I believe you will also need to compile the I2C modules as well.

Post back with your results.

Mike

maroonbaboon · 07-30-2005, 08:21 AM

The obvious reason your card is not working is that there is no driver loaded. But I think you are also in trouble with the old system and 2.4 kernel.

The home page for the TV card driver you need is

http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/saa7134.html

and you can check for details in the documentation there. But seriously you should consider giving up on RH9 - you also have to sort out the video4linux drivers even before you get to the TV card. Can you get hold of a live CD like Knoppix? Most probably your card will work straight away. All the drivers you need are in recent 2.6 kernels.

krock923 · 07-30-2005, 11:44 AM

I have the install CDs for FC3 here. Should I give that a try? I've been thinking of giving BSD a go lately as well and I have the 5.4 install discs. I think i'll give it a shot on BSD.. oh wait. I have the ubuntu live CD around here somewhere. I'll try it with that and I [might] be able to dig up a knoppix. Luckily a lot of my friends have broadband. Thanks for all of your help so far.

Oh yea. Will it rquire a kernel recompile with FC3 if I use that?

mike105105 · 07-30-2005, 02:07 PM

Not sure, but a kernel re-compile is nothing to be afraid of. It is quite simple, a few commands, a few choices, a few more commands and your done. If ya need any help just ask.

Mike

maroonbaboon · 07-30-2005, 09:36 PM

I don't know about BSD. Does it have the sort of hardware/driver support that linux has? As for recompiling kernels, I would think that any popular distribution with a recent 2.6 kernel should come with everything you need to run most analog TV cards.

I suggested Knoppix because (a) the latest version is usually extremely up-to-date and (b) it sounded like you might not have a separate home partition, so would lose all you your files if you did an upgrade.

krock923 · 07-30-2005, 11:46 PM

I just installed FC3 and still not really any luck. It looks like it is somewhat detected but xawtv still doesn't do anything and scantv doesn't do anything either. I don't know how to make it work because it says it is there! Please help.

lspci -vv:

Code:

01:07.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA713X Audio+video broadcast decoder (rev d0)
        Subsystem: Unknown device 17de:7136
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 32 (4000ns min, 10000ns max)
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 12
        Region 0: Memory at ea000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=3 PME-

dmesg:

Code:

Linux video capture interface: v1.00
saa7130/34: v4l2 driver version 0.2.12 loaded
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:07.0[A] -> GSI 12 (level, low) -> IRQ 12
saa7133[0]: found at 0000:01:07.0, rev: 208, irq: 12, latency: 32, mmio: 0xea000000
saa7133[0]: subsystem: 17de:7136, board: UNKNOWN/GENERIC [card=0,autodetected]
saa7133[0]: board init: gpio is 40
saa7133[0]: dsp access wait timeout [bit=WRR]
saa7133[0]: dsp access wait timeout [bit=WRR]
saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 00: de 17 36 71 10 28 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 10: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 20: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
saa7133[0]: i2c eeprom 30: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
saa7133[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]
saa7133[0]: registered device vbi0

maroonbaboon · 07-31-2005, 12:07 AM

You might go back to mike105105's first post, although I think he means 'modprobe saa7134 card=x'. It seems critical to load the driver module with the right parameters, which depend on the card.

If you have no saa7134 driver it may be your distro is still too old. This was a relatively recent addition to the kernel.

In my experience you also need a decent antenna. Rabbit ears may not be enough. Although newer cards seem better.

krock923 · 07-31-2005, 12:31 AM

what do i do after I enter that? do i need to reboot or anything? My card has an S-Video input and I actually saw when I conected my xbox to it. It's almost as if I can't get it to read the TV stations now.

maroonbaboon · 07-31-2005, 12:46 AM

You don't have to reboot. If the right driver gets loaded with the right parameters the card should work immediately. It still has to be tuned to your local stations. You can use xawtv to scan for stations and write a config file.

I didn't understand the bit about the xbox and S-video.

krock923 · 07-31-2005, 12:49 AM

On the back of my tv card, is an input for a video game or vcr or whatever. The TV card can see this signal from the xbox (albeit with a bad picture and no sound, but it is progress) but it doesn't look for TV stations.

krock923 · 07-31-2005, 01:56 AM

card=10 gets me picture, but the tuner still doesn't work. only the video in does. I still don't have sound either.

maroonbaboon · 07-31-2005, 02:43 AM

According to the kernel source docs (file Documentation/video4linux/README.saa7134) there is another option to modprobe saa7134 which is 'tuner=x', where as before x depends on your card. You could try a few values. You should also post the lsmod output if you are still having problems, now that you have at least found a driver. There should be a module called 'tuner' there also.

For sound maybe its coming in on a new channel on your mixer, which is muted or turned down. Or maybe you have one of those cards that need to (or can) be wired up to the sound card input with a short cable (usually supplied).