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Old 06-01-2003, 02:52 PM   #1
DarkXtar
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I give up on Linux Windows is clearly superior on a desktop pc


After spending several months of using linux i just cant stand it anymore it's impossible to get any work done on linux i'm sick of spending hours configuring crap, im sick of apps not working or crashing, im sick of my perfectly fine Lexmark X73 not being supported my linux, im tired of the crashes when dialing my isp even windows 98 doesnt crash when i connect to the internet i bought a exernal modem only for it to be defective whats the point of a free os if you have to go out and waste money on modems and printers when the unsupported ones work just fine on windows? is linux free? heck no! is windows free? it came free with my pc, sure it costs money in the stores but so does redhat and suse. Truth is i have more freedom on windows than linux and thats why im going back to windows because everything works on windows ill admit not perfectly thats why i tried linux but i have to say things were much smoother on windows than they were on linux i didnt get half the errors and app crashes as i do on linux.
 
Old 06-01-2003, 02:55 PM   #2
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lol...yet another one who feels the need to tell us he is leaving linux and going back to windows.

 
Old 06-01-2003, 02:58 PM   #3
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lol...yet another one who feels the need to tell us he is leaving linux and going back to windows.

Maybe it is time to suggest a new forum "Windoze User Failure Stories".
 
Old 06-01-2003, 03:01 PM   #4
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Maybe it is time to suggest a new forum "Windoze User Failure Stories".
Thats a great idea! They can all sit around and bash Linux. I would get a kick out of it.
 
Old 06-01-2003, 03:22 PM   #5
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linux rocks but i admit that you have more freedom in apps in windows but
linux is better ;-)

cheers

erling
 
Old 06-01-2003, 03:40 PM   #6
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"More freedom in apps in Windows"? Sorry, that doesn't compute. As for the idea of having a "Windoze User Failure Stories" forum, it has my full support.

Regarding the initial post...well, what can you say? Perhaps Linux isn't for everyone. But neither is Windows, or whatever you can think of. The "winning" concept of Microsoft is to reduce the user to zero, and that's why "regular users" usually panic (and/or screw up) if they have to interact with the computer. To such users, the OS and computer is intended to be invisible. There are a couple of Linux distros that try to achieve this. I don't know if I'd say that Slackware is one of them.

No, I believe that the more "hardcore" distros are for people who want more out of their system - people who actually find computers cool. Or just want more control, in order to pursue their never ending quest for world domination. Ahem.

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Old 06-01-2003, 04:06 PM   #7
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To each his own... But Linux is better! HA.

Chris
 
Old 06-01-2003, 04:17 PM   #8
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Here is another one who blames linux because this or that is not supported by a company. Call lexmark and ask why they don't make drivers for linux(or not enough of them). Linux is just as easy as windows, but doesn't crash nearly as much. Actually, it only crashed on me once. XP has crashed many times.
 
Old 06-01-2003, 04:17 PM   #9
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a quote i have seen somewhere before....modified a bit:

Windows is user friendly....so is Linux..it just chooses who its friends are.
 
Old 06-01-2003, 04:30 PM   #10
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Good Luck, DarkXtar.
 
Old 06-01-2003, 04:37 PM   #11
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Actaully I've found linux remarkably hard to crash. I've had the Gimp not close properly and use almost 100% RAM, swap and CPU, but kill...erm killed it off. I've crashed the X server with Fluxbox unstable releases, and I've even half managed a rm -rf / but this install is still running fine and the kernel hasnt crashed. The journalised file system really pays off
 
Old 06-01-2003, 04:40 PM   #12
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Well, I am dual booting and about in the 50% to 50% mode in usage. I LOVE Linux, but for me it has some limitations in the APPS department for WHAT I DO because there aren't Linux versions of some software that I HAVE to use for work. However, that said, I am doing all of my OTHER stuff in Linux because it is FAR more stable, has a lower overhead, is EASIER to manage because of the lack of needed maintenance, and some other reasons too.

I have about 8 different utilities that I use in my Windows XP just to keep things running OK....defrag utilities, registry cleaners and defraggers, Anti-virus scanners, Anti Spyware scanners, Active X control consols, Add/Remove software, etc. And I still have to do a lot of manual stuff too...just to keep it healthy. Yes, in some respects, Windows is easier to use.....but sheeesh...they sure have had enough time. Linux is just a BABY and look at the potential. It was IMPOSSIBLE to use just a few years ago. Now it's and "almost there" system for even brain-damaged Windows users (me!).

So....I give it 1 to 2 years before it REALLY breaks out because of it's superior archetecture.

Oh....up for three weeks now (Red Hat 9) and NOT ONE FREEZE or CRASH! And I got my Java working great today!

I know, I know, shuttup. OK.
 
Old 06-01-2003, 05:03 PM   #13
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Moved: General discussions don't belong in Linux - General, but more in General. This thread has been moved as you can clearly see to the more suitable forum.
 
Old 06-01-2003, 05:27 PM   #14
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It is real easy to bash the guy who is dropping Linux in favor of Windows, but instead of feeling superior and boasting about our giant mental organ, we should listen carefully to every guy or gal who drops Linux to return to Windows. Why did they drop? Were they unable to configure their hardware properly? Did they need some Windows app for work? An app that doesn't have a Linux equivalent. Is there a game they miss.

I have been using Linux on my home desktop for about two years now, but I am not sure I would install it on my wife's computer. It doesn't matter because I can't install Linux on my wife's machine. Why? Because I haven'f found a truly full functioned Linux home accounting program as good, intuitive and stable as Quicken (and I have experimented with a lot of them) and I have found nothing in the area of personal tax preparation. As importantly there is my daughter's machine. It would be a great candidate for Linux since she uses it primarily for cruising the net. But she still likes Windows games, so she still runs Windows.

All to often people who are Linux fans forget that operating systems are only intended to mediate between hardware and applications. If an OS can't talk to hardware all the arguments about stability and architecture are useless. The OS that can't is simply not as good for the person with that hardware as one that can. More importanlty, people use computers not to run the OS, but to run applications. If an OS can't run an application it is useless to the person who turns his or her computer on to run that application.

Answer this question truthfully. Where does Linux shine? It shines when it is supporting world class application software. Apache comes immediately to mind, but there are other enterprise applications for example MySQL

The people staying with Linux, like you and me, are the ones who should be screaming at hardware and software manufacturers for Linux drivers and applications.

Don't bash the user the next time somebody posts he has thrown up his hands and gone back to Windows. Instead find out why and if possible correct the problem.

coppersky

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Old 06-01-2003, 05:52 PM   #15
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coppersky you are the only one on this thread i have respect for your post is the only one with any truth in it. Now back to the others... ontrary to popular belief I am not a stupid windows user i was able to configure my printer and modem on linux but obviously none of you "Linux Gurus" have ever set up a lexmark X73 or you would know that the drivers only perform half the time and the scanner is not supported under linux. My winmodem fairs a little better except for the glitch that causes the kernel to hang (gee some stable os linux is). Face it Linux is failed to doom as long as common hardware isn't supported and jerk offs bash people for it.
 
  


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