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Old 10-16-2013, 04:23 PM   #106
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I don't know. You need to ask a space engineer or scientist
 
Old 10-16-2013, 04:39 PM   #107
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I don't know. You need to ask a space engineer or scientist
No, I don't need to ask anyone else but you what you think. If I ask someone else what you think they will say
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I don't know. You need to ask UberX what he thinks.
 
Old 10-18-2013, 07:40 AM   #108
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Doesn't matter what we think..The point is someone did create all that ancient stuff which can be seen in 3D today and we should explore them otherwise if it really was something special or warning about something then we should not allow situation "by the time we figure out what really goes on it will be too late to change". I guess some people are scared of truth...
 
Old 10-18-2013, 02:37 PM   #109
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Doesn't matter what we think..
It does matter what we think, if you know somethign to be accurate, true, important then argue for it. if you know it to be the opposite then argue against it.

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The point is someone did create all that ancient stuff which can be seen in 3D today and we should explore them otherwise if it really was something special or warning about something then we should not allow situation "by the time we figure out what really goes on it will be too late to change".
Not everything you are citing as factual evidence of Alien construction on Earth was created (better work would be made) by aliens. I explained the crystal cave as a geological occurence, I even gave you something to look up yet I doubt you even thought of taking a look for yourself because you are so set in your ways thinking that everything here must have some mysterious origin.

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I guess some people are scared of truth...
What a poor attempt at an insult. You know something, truth is something I am not scared of if I am wrong I'll admit it, if I make a mistake I'll admit it, if I have an opinion it is mine and I won't go around sprouting it as fact. In other words I don't make up "truth" to suit my own personal belief system or even more disturbingly my own agenda.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 02:10 AM   #110
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UFO believers are watching too much X Files
 
Old 10-27-2013, 04:39 PM   #111
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It's not just "X file"s, it's probably any kind of sci-fi or popular pseudo science "documentaries" which makes people think "it's possible". If anything this shows the power of television, not to mention social engineering, and showcases human gullibility, but little else. Some people just like to switch off their brains for half an hour and just soak up this kind of crap.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 06:22 PM   #112
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There is a difference between things like the X-Files/SciFi and pseudo science "documanetaries". The first is for entertainment, the second is for brainwashing the gulliblee. There is nothing inherently wrong with "entertainment", there is alot wrong with spreading fantasy as fact. If a person cannot distinguish between entertainment (i.e. fiction) and reality there is a problem, if a person is easily brainwashed there is also a problem.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 06:37 PM   #113
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If a person cannot distinguish between entertainment (i.e. fiction) and reality there is a problem
Which describes most people. How many North Americans watch garbage like Herakles the Legendary Journeys and Zena, and think they are watching shows that depict actual history? The answer is far too many. No movies have realistic fight scenes, yet almost everyone believes the fights are so incredibly realistic. Ignorance results in people being gullible. Those who create rediculous "documentaries" are only taking advantage of the ignorance and credulity instilled in the masses by education systems designed to indocrinate, instead of educate.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:08 PM   #114
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Which describes most people. How many North Americans watch garbage like Herakles the Legendary Journeys and Zena, and think they are watching shows that depict actual history? The answer is far too many.
I agree but I will also say that more than 1 is far to many and that not everybody believes these things are based on actualy events.
 
Old 10-28-2013, 02:23 AM   #115
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Which describes most people. How many North Americans watch garbage like Herakles the Legendary Journeys and Zena, and think they are watching shows that depict actual history? The answer is far too many. No movies have realistic fight scenes, yet almost everyone believes the fights are so incredibly realistic. Ignorance results in people being gullible.{...}
Oh really? Is that so? Let's see what reality has to say:
1. Learn to type correctly - it is Hercules: The Legendary Journeys and Xena: Warrior Princess.
2. What do those shows have to do with Aliens? Neither of them are about aliens.
3. They might not depict actual history but they still depict history. History is written by victors. Even if twisted it still contains truth.
4. Non-realistic fight scenes? Maybe go visit some martial arts class? They are real.
5. Beauty is in the eye of beholder - it's fine if you think something is garbage or not but don't claim it actually is because you said so.
6. Ignorance is truly bliss - Hollywood not only lies but tells truth - through symbolism..your fault if you can't see it.
 
Old 10-28-2013, 03:13 AM   #116
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1. Learn to type correctly
I chose the Greek spelling, because the character in the show was supposed to be Greek. Even though they used the Roman name. Some of your so-called reality.
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3. They might not depict actual history but they still depict history.
The history is not true, but is still history. Brilliant.
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4. Non-realistic fight scenes? Maybe go visit some martial arts class? They are real.
Actually, I know kung-fu. I can state categorically that fight scenes in movies are nonsense. They are, after all, entertainment, not reality.
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5. Beauty is in the eye of beholder - it's fine if you think something is garbage or not but don't claim it actually is because you said so.
Sometimes that is true, but not always. Garbage is garbage, even though good salespeople can convince the ignorant and the stupid it is not. You are basically saying, "Do not tell me your opinion if it is different than mine." If you cannot handle different opinons, do not take part in discussions.
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6. Ignorance is truly bliss - Hollywood not only lies but tells truth - through symbolism..your fault if you can't see it.
Truth through symbolism? From Hollywood?
Looks like you want to encourage people to use the board's ignore list feature.

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Old 10-28-2013, 06:13 AM   #117
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A good example of pseudo science in "non sci-fi" genres is in the fake computer systems, impossible image enhancement technology and gadgetry seen in many films/TV series and not just those involving spies or police. These do not usually feature aliens, starships or other worlds, but are still sci-fi, just not clearly defined as such. While a good proportion of people will recognise pseudo science in movies immediately, many will not. For someone who is not technologically savvy it's not easy to tell the difference and understand that e.g. an image at 320x200 resolution cannot be "enhanced" and turned into a more detailed image which is 3200x2000.

The same goes for historical based feature films. Since the advent of cinema, these films have created and perpetuated myths in place of historical fact. It has been shown how movies can distort the fiction novels they are based on and cause generations of people to relate to the movie rather than the written word to the extent that the movie can easily become the accepted version, the film industry can and has done the same thing for history and science. For someone not well up on their history, they may just accept some or all of the film maker's version of events.
 
Old 10-28-2013, 06:21 AM   #118
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwoBoS8vG-U

Here's an interesting interview with Michio Kaku talking about recent planet discoveries, seti and the UN office for outer space affairs.
 
Old 10-28-2013, 09:35 AM   #119
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While not a Xfiles fan or dumb enough to accept psycho-babble double talk like
" energetic vortexes that send the mind to different dimensions".

I do give credit to guys who comment on the machine marks on symmetry on things like obelisks, sphinx faces and age, how with modern technology we cannot reproduce any of the large structures scattered around the globe.

Kooks abound in every genre. But if I am standing in front of a block of stone
that a ch-53 or a professional mining company can't even budge and the mountain that stone was mined from is miles and rough terrain away.

Well, then a nay sayer looks like a kook to me also. I guess it all depends if one keeps a young questioning mind or one lives by the accepted dogma of the ages.
I prefer a questioning mind without gullibility but not accepting of weak
dogmatic Nay Sayers who say things like

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UFO believers are watching too much X Files
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Little was known for certain
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...he-Sphinx.html

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Lehner helped confirm what others had speculated—that some parts of the Giza complex, the Sphinx included, make up a vast sacred machine designed to harness the power of the sun to sustain the earthly and divine order
Building a complex structure system is a lot different than writing a yarn.

Funny part is. What would your govt or religion rather have you believe.
2 institutions I distrust for any explanation for anything.
I rest my case.

It's amazing how the threads of time can twist
And things once scorned become the trendiest things.
As a young man
I was just "a sci fi fan"
But nowadays I call myself a futurist

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Old 10-28-2013, 05:02 PM   #120
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Life to short to look at light speed? . Lot of space out there and you know there has to be something somewhere.
But one thing I am sure they probably don't use windoze zzzz.
 
  


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