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Old 10-07-2013, 08:22 AM   #91
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How does this explain ancient times when humans just recently evolved from primitive creatures to reasonable beings with ability to do stuff we don't even know today? Something is just missing in this puzzle - on purpose!
We diverged from chimps around 4 million years ago, although there is recent evidence suggesting it may be more like 7 million years ago when the divergance began. The first Homo genus was around 2.5 million years ago and the first Homo Sapien around 100 to 250 thousand years ago depending on who you listen to.

None of these can really be considered recent. The key factors, apart from our being so much more intelligent and ability to process abstract concepts, are our ability to write i.e. to pass on our knowledge and experience in great detail to the next generation, and our massive proliferation in numbers. (Not to mention slowly but surely freeing ourselves from the millstone of religious dogma and superstition.)

These things lead to an exponential understanding and control of the world around us and put us where we are.

No aliens required.
 
Old 10-07-2013, 09:20 AM   #92
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How does this explain ancient times when humans just recently evolved from primitive creatures
This sounds as if you believe that someday the first human was born from its apelike ancestors. This is not how evolution works.
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Something is just missing in this puzzle - on purpose!
Maybe something is missing, but how do you come to the conclusion that it is on purpose?
 
Old 10-07-2013, 11:17 AM   #93
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We diverged from chimps around 4 million years ago, although there is recent evidence suggesting it may be more like 7 million years ago when the divergance began. The first Homo genus was around 2.5 million years ago and the first Homo Sapien around 100 to 250 thousand years ago depending on who you listen to.
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No aliens required.
Oh please..not this again..if you really believe ancient wonders were proof of noting special mixed with evolution then you need further study of subject to educate yourself.

Maybe it was not aliens..but we are discussing them here. Anyhow there was something or some force that helped.
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This sounds as if you believe that someday the first human was born from its apelike ancestors. This is not how evolution works.

Maybe something is missing, but how do you come to the conclusion that it is on purpose?
I'm aware how evolution works and myths surrounding it..thanks. I was just saying - our evolution was put in motion and influenced further by some force/s who we don't know yet! The evidence however still remains everywhere..

Again..when people in charge will finally release truth about ancient constructions(see video above) so that everyone will be able to do same stuff today then will talk about non-purpose.
 
Old 10-07-2013, 12:13 PM   #94
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I was just saying - our evolution was put in motion and influenced further by some force/s who we don't know yet! The evidence however still remains everywhere..

Again..when people in charge will finally release truth about ancient constructions(see video above) so that everyone will be able to do same stuff today then will talk about non-purpose.
You are saying and repeating that, all the time. Yet you still fail to answer the simple question: Where do you base your believes on? You only ever come up with statements like "There must be ...", "Someone is hiding it from us ...", "You will see in the future ...", but yet you don't come up with even one reasonable hypothesis why it must be, who is hiding something from us, what is hidden, ... .
 
Old 10-07-2013, 02:01 PM   #95
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Anyhow there was something or some force that helped.
How do you know? I've seem humans achieve some pretty amazing things.

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The evidence however still remains everywhere..
WHAT evidence? WHERE? SHOW ME

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Again..when people in charge will finally release truth about ancient constructions
You keep using this word "truth". In scientific terms that a pretty strong term. What you have is no more than speculation.
 
Old 10-07-2013, 03:26 PM   #96
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We diverged from chimps around 4 million years ago
The evidence suggests chimps and humans have a common ancestor not that chimps are our ancestor.

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Oh please..not this again..if you really believe ancient wonders were proof of noting special mixed with evolution then you need further study of subject to educate yourself.
To use your words against you, you are absolutely clueless. Stop watching youtube clips to support your beliefs. Stop believing that everyone is deliberately keeping secrets from you. Stop watching kids entertainment and thinking it is real. In all seriousness this could be a decent topic of conversation but your insistance that only you know the truth and everyone else needs to educate themselves is ludicrous.
 
Old 10-07-2013, 04:09 PM   #97
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If aliens do exists, why don't they show themselves already. Why all the hiding and sneaking around. Are they shy, are they self conscious of their appearance. Maybe they're afraid we'll kick their tiny green asses back to space.

Aliens are just imagination of the mind. Nothing more.

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Old 10-07-2013, 04:15 PM   #98
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If aliens do exists, why don't they show themselves already. Why all the hiding and sneaking around. Are they shy, are they self conscious of their appearance. Maybe they're afraid we'll kick their tiny green asses back to space.

Aliens are just imagination of the mind. Nothing more.
You realize that the "Aliens" does include more than those UFO flying green people? Like, a microbe from the moon Titan (if such a microbe exists) is also an "Alien", but that they show up here is extremely unlikely.
 
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Yeah, I see UFOs all the time. They deliver pizza and beer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDXuGQRpvs4
 
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Ha! Found this article..
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/atlan...muda-triangle/
Still think it is nothing special?
 
Old 10-13-2013, 03:29 AM   #101
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Ha! Found this article..
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/atlan...muda-triangle/
Still think it is nothing special?
Ha, if they are real and not photoshop jobs they could quite conceivably be indigenous structures that were submerged during the last sea level rise. In other words there is nothing even slightly mysterious in this.
 
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I don't believe in this stuff but I do wonder what is the purpose of all these planets in our solar system.
 
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I don't believe in this stuff but I do wonder what is the purpose of all these planets in our solar system.
Why do you think they have a purpose?
 
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Why do you think they have a purpose?
Maybe to balance things in the universe. Who knows???
 
Old 10-16-2013, 03:22 PM   #105
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Maybe to balance things in the universe. Who knows???
So do you think this is a weight balance issue? If, for example Saturn was missing, the Solar system we are in would be like a car tyre without correct balance weights? This is a serious question.
 
  


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