Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

I LOVE WINDO (Not Responding)

*long pause*
*Excessive pressing of X button*
*Ctrl-Atl-Deletes and quits iexplorer.exe process*
*curses at self for not finishing message*
*shuts down Windows*
*boots Linux*

I hate Windows, your performance can be degraded so easily, on Linux it is smooth sailing for no matter how much you install on it.

And Windows new slogan is 'Life without walls' right? You need walls to have windows don't you? Think about it...

I always thought that was a dumb slogan/motto for 'Windows'.

Originally Posted by leopard I always thought that was a dumb slogan/motto for 'Windows'.

I guess Bill Gates didn't think of that living in a glass house, where your walls double as windows.

Originally Posted by cmas1148 (Not Responding) *long pause* *Excessive pressing of X button* *Ctrl-Atl-Deletes and quits iexplorer.exe process* *curses at self for not finishing message* *shuts down Windows* *boots Linux*

My mom sometimes has this happen on her laptop (running Windows 7 Home Premium), minus the last two steps.

I don't bother with trying to get people to switch to Linux; if they don't care, so be it.

Originally Posted by cmas1148 And Windows new slogan is 'Life without walls' right? You need walls to have windows don't you? Think about it...

"In a life without walls or fences, who needs Windows and Gates?"

Originally Posted by MTK358 "In a life without walls or fences, who needs Windows and Gates?"

You are my new hero.

Originally Posted by cmas1148 You are my new hero.

I didn't invent that, I heard it somewhere. I don't know who said it first.

Originally Posted by MTK358 I didn't invent that, I heard it somewhere. I don't know who said it first.

Ohh.

Heck I would have just rolled with it. Haha.

So what do you guys think about M$ support on later OSes? Particularyy XP because it still OWNS the buisness end of things. M$ recently dropped support for XP SP2 and Vista w/ no SP.

Honestly I agree with them. There are a lot of fixes in the Service Packs and I think everyone should up date. You should take advantadge of support while you can because very soon Vista and XP will become obsolete and Microsoft won't care about you. If people gave 7 a shot, I think it could replace XP on the business front.

Originally Posted by soppy Honestly I agree with them. There are a lot of fixes in the Service Packs and I think everyone should up date. You should take advantadge of support while you can because very soon Vista and XP will become obsolete and Microsoft won't care about you. If people gave 7 a shot, I think it could replace XP on the business front.

Ohh of course Windows 7 could replace XP, but switching is a painful process and takes time, Ubuntu or Fedora could also replace Windows altogether, these OSes also have the best price tag.

Originally Posted by soppy Honestly I agree with them. There are a lot of fixes in the Service Packs and I think everyone should up date. You should take advantadge of support while you can because very soon Vista and XP will become obsolete and Microsoft won't care about you. If people gave 7 a shot, I think it could replace XP on the business front.

Planned obsolescence which forces one to pay a lot of money for something which essentially does nothing that the old OS couldn't do....but uses a crap-load more resources to do..... What I don't understand, is why people keep falling for this, when there are not only alternatives....but FREE alternatives.

new oses come for making use of new hardware. then why shouldn't we stick to fedora core1 and ubntu /1/04/

Originally Posted by Sumguy Planned obsolescence which forces one to pay a lot of money for something which essentially does nothing that the old OS couldn't do....but uses a crap-load more resources to do..... What I don't understand, is why people keep falling for this, when there are not only alternatives....but FREE alternatives.

Couldn't agree more. Microsoft just doesn't know the difference between a good and a service and is trying to push upgrades every 1.5 or so years as a way to try and turn a PC into some service done for a fee instead of a good which it really is. The disclaimer is that Microsoft through the OS is trying to make you pay rent on your PC instead of own it. The "rent" is the cost of the OS + planned obsolescence, and the lease contract is the EULA. By using Linux, you make sure you own your computer instead of "renting" it from Microsoft.

The problem, however, is that very few people even know that alternatives exist. I do know a few in my area (like one of my good friends from school), but the majority of those don't care. However, those that do actually listen to me. It's them that are my closest friends and really know that what they use pleases me. It also pleases them too just as much to know that Microsoft isn't the dictator in their lives. It's a real shame that so many more people don't really care that Microsoft is ruining their lives and watching their every move without them knowing it. Not even my teacher cares. Not even my classmates. None except for a privileged few actually give a rat's *** about what's on their computers, even if it is the very thing that's causing their problems!

Disclaimer:

• Many users are familiar with Windows, and it's that familiarity that's silently killing them.
• There are alternatives, but many users are blind to them because Microsoft is making them that way.
• Even those that I try to tell about Linux are rude, arrogant, and ignorant about it
• When I mention the words "proprietary software" people say "Huh?" when at the same time they use it all the time without knowing it.
• People are also full of fear. They are so fearful of their computers thinking that, because of viruses and other things out there, anything changed on their computers must have been "hacked" into there when in reality viruses have nothing to do with their computer but have everything to do with the operating system. That operating system is Windows.

Bottom line:

If you don't care, that's your loss. Just because an OS might be familiar to you does not make it better. It ultimately comes down to this: If you don't trust your data to any outside sources, and don't trust it to hackers, don't trust Microsoft. In the end, all the malware (viruses, spyware, Trojans, worms, etc.) is written for Windows and all the totalitarianism regarding what you can and can't do with your computer is backed by Microsoft.

new oses come for making use of new hardware. then why shouldn't we stick to fedora core1

Because Fedora is a developement distro and it only supports each version for thirteen months(after release of FC6?). This means that after that thirteen months there are no updates of any kind. So FC1 has not had an update in a long time(2006?), which leaves the system with known security holes and no (easy) way to patch the system. Because rpm based systems are so tightly integrated if you try to patch just one part you often destabilize the entire install. You wind up having to build and install multiple updates at the same time, which is a royal PITA. It is much easier to either keep up with the update schedule(reinstall every thirteen months) or switch to a long term supported distro. For Fedora users Centos is the general path as it is RHEL(Red Hat Enterprise Linux) with the logos stripped out. As RHEL is based on Fedora(or Fedora is the development branch) it is a natural transition (RHEL/Centos5 was based on FC6). RHEL/Centos has a five year plus support life.

Edit: Not quite sure why it posted the whole thing twice.

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new oses come for making use of new hardware. then why shouldn't we stick to fedora core1

Because Fedora is a developement distro and it only supports each version for thirteen months(after release of FC6?). This means that after that thirteen months there are no updates of any kind. So FC1 has not had an update in a long time(2006?), which leaves the system with known security holes and no (easy) way to patch the system. Because rpm based systems are so tightly integrated if you try to patch just one part you often destabilize the entire install. You wind up having to build and install multiple updates at the same time, which is a royal PITA. It is much easier to either keep up with the update schedule(reinstall every thirteen months) or switch to a long term supported distro. For Fedora users Centos is the general path as it is RHEL(Red Hat Enterprise Linux) with the logos stripped out. As RHEL is based on Fedora(or Fedora is the development branch) it is a natural transition (RHEL/Centos5 was based on FC6). RHEL/Centos has a five year plus support life.

Yup, I'll agree and to prove your point I'll say it twice!
Yup, I'll agree and to prove your point I'll say it twice!