Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread
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Back to your statement, I hate when Windows Updates. I really don't know what it is deciding to install and half of the time the update fails to continue after it installs, asks me to reboot and goes to "Stage 3 of configuring". So it then takes 20 more minutes to reload the Windows Backup and then finally I'm back at my desktop. But oh wait!!! New updates are available!! Let's try again!!! :/ Nope... I've only had Linux screw me over once on updates (Fedora 8 to 9) but that's because Fedora 9 sucked anyways. I've never (even now when I run Arch-Testing), have I had my computer crash due to a bad update. Can't say the same about Windows. :/
Yeah, IIRC I had heard some bad things about XP's SP3 when it was first released (this was back before knew much of anything about Linux), so I would always have to uncheck it whenever MS wanted to put it on my computer.
I've never had the problem you're describing of it still configuring things after a reboot, though...but it did tend to annoy me that you almost always had to reboot after an update. With Arch I don't have to. Hell, I don't even have to update if I don't want to! But I usually do anyway.
The only Linux update that require a reboot to take effect is the kernel itself. And even then it's harmless not to reboot, you'll just keep using the old kernel.
One thing I HATE HATE HATE about Windows updates is that every 5 minutes, it pops up a window that you have to cancel or it will reboot automatically, and you can't stop it!
That's very true. I was getting there :P
Yes, Linux is kind of safeguarded from having to reboot after installing updates. I can use my Ubuntu netbook for hours after I install updates (the only thing after a kernel update that it plagues me with is the red power button in the upper right corner) and can reboot when I feel like it. That is a serious problem with Windows.
Last edited by Kenny_Strawn; 12-14-2010 at 10:42 AM.
Reason: Removed satirical misspelling.
The popup window has a progress bar that counts down to the automatic shutdown, and buttons to cancel the automatic shutdown and shut down now.
The problem is that when you cancel it, it comes back in a few minutes. So if you dont's want your computer to shut down, you have to never leave your computer and deal with the annoying popup every few minutes.
Who is going to want to reboot after *ALL* updates and programs are installed, even if they are totally unrelated to the functioning of the system? In my opinion that's downright stupid, and Windows forces that on you.
The Regi$try is to blame, that miserable good-for-nothing piece of crap that basically dictates the configuration of the system instead of Linux's highly decentralized configuration system that isn't built into the kernel. It was a very bad idea from the beginning and can get corrupted so easily that the mere thought of editing it makes even highly trained power users scream. And when it does get corrupted, there's no other way to restore it but to reinstall Windows. If any Linux configuration files have syntax errors, you can edit them to correct the errors. But Windows's highly centralized configuration system causes your system to not boot when even the slightest thing goes wrong with the goddang Regi$try.
Windows is like a compiler that gives you errors instead of warnings or notes.
Last edited by Kenny_Strawn; 12-14-2010 at 07:28 PM.